matt_sainsbury Posted August 15, 2006 Share Posted August 15, 2006 Hi everyone, I've just started getting into a specialised type of sports photography - specifically dancesport photography, and I'm just looking for advice/ clues about which lens would be optimal for the form. At present I'm using a simple 50mm 1.8 lens, and it works to an extent. The good thing about dance photography is that with most competitions you're virtually sitting on the dance floor, meaning you don't exactly need a telephoto lens to capture the action (at least, that's how things go here in Australia). However, are there any better Canon lens for this kind of job? I can only budget around $1000 Aus for a new lens, so if anyone can suggest a lens that fits within that job description/ maximum cost that would be better than my humble (but much loved) 50 mm lens, I'd be very grateful. Thanks in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mendonphoto Posted August 15, 2006 Share Posted August 15, 2006 <p>Do you need to get in a little closer to the action? Do you need a wider view? Do you need the f/1.8 aperture, or would f/2.8 or even f/4.0 be okay for you? You want zoom or prime? Are you using a film camera or a DSLR (APS-C size)?</p> <p>Without knowing what you are looking for, a few that I would start with the following:</p> <p>Tamron 28-75mm f/2.8<br> Canon 85mm f/1.8<br> Canon 17-40mm f/4.0<br> Tamron 17-35mm f/2.8-4.0<br> Sigma 17-70mm f/2.8-4.5<br></p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt_sainsbury Posted August 15, 2006 Author Share Posted August 15, 2006 I want as low an aperture as possible, I think, as dancing often takes place in the middle of a hall, meaning audience on any side, which I want to blur out as much as possible. I'd prefer prime to zoom, for the simple reason that I don't really want to waste time with zooming, which I know I'd feel compelled to do if I had a zoom lens. And I use a Canon EOS 300D Digital. Thanks for the list though, it's a good place to start my research :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mendonphoto Posted August 15, 2006 Share Posted August 15, 2006 You still didn't say if you need a wider or narrower view. You prefer changing lenses to zooming? Or, do you have two bodies - one for each lens? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yakim_peled1 Posted August 15, 2006 Share Posted August 15, 2006 My vote goes to the 85/1.8 USM. Happy shooting, Yakim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt_sainsbury Posted August 15, 2006 Author Share Posted August 15, 2006 I'm probably going to be looking at a narrower view - stuff like I've already got at my DA account, only taken with a better lens for the situation. (http://danceart.deviantart.com). Is the 85 mm f/1.8 even still available? Canon Aus website dosen't have a listing of it. Though the 100 mm f/2 USM would work similarly well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mendonphoto Posted August 15, 2006 Share Posted August 15, 2006 I think it's actually a pretty popular prime lens for Canon - maybe second after the 50mm f/1.8. I don't know why Canon would discontinue it. It's still on usa.canon.com. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
athinkle Posted August 15, 2006 Share Posted August 15, 2006 The 85 1.8 sounds like a good choice. I've shot dance before and yes, it can be done with primes. I've done pretty much a whole show with a 100mm lens on a film body. The fast aperture of a prime is definitely worth the trade off. One thing I might recommend, if you're dealing with somewhat lower light levels, is a better body. I know I'll probably get shredded for recommending this, as the best long term purchase is always glass, but the 300D has some truly glaring flaws compared to more current bodies. A used 20D, for instance, has a few major benefits: First off, the ability to select partial metering is very, very useful. The 300D is only capable of doing that when you select AE lock. Another benefit, perhaps the most important, is the phenomenal increase in high ISO noise performance. I used to have a 300D before my 20D, and the difference is staggering. Anyway, think about your budget and whether or not you'll really benefit from these differences. Good luck with your decisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovcom_photo Posted August 15, 2006 Share Posted August 15, 2006 Carlos, get your facts straight....actually, most National Geographic photogs use Canon kit, as does Getty Images, Rueters, Sports Illustrated, the list goes on and on and on....check out ANY sporting venue anywhere in the world...it's Canon city, to be sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trenternst Posted August 15, 2006 Share Posted August 15, 2006 Looked at your pictures, and I think you could definitely use a slightly longer lens, just to frame the action tighter. My favourite lens for lowish light action is the 70-200 2.8; I know you don't like the zoom thing, but it beats running back and forth to get your framing correctly. Especially in something like dance competition, where it seems to me (having never shot), having an audience member moving around a lot would be verboten. But if you're looking for a fixed lens, the 100 f2 is a slightly longer lens than the 85, and a good price point. Some people have complained that the AF is a little slow....I wouldn't know, as I don't use many primes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r._j. Posted August 16, 2006 Share Posted August 16, 2006 What's the crop factor on your body, if you're shooting digitally? Good Canon primes are the 50/1.8 and 50/1.4 - the latter allegedly a slower focuser than the 1.8. Also good are the 85/1.2 and 85/1.8 - the former is a faster focuser (but a slower aperture). Then there's the 135/2 or, for something wider, the 35/1.4. Everything here is an excellent lens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve.elliott Posted August 20, 2006 Share Posted August 20, 2006 Another vote for the 85mm f1.8 - it produces pin sharp images, focusing is very fast and is very good in low light with the f1.8 aperture - and it's cheap for the quality. For the distance you're talking about and the 1.6 multiplyer(136mm) it seems ideal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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