katydid Posted July 28, 2006 Share Posted July 28, 2006 I was just looking back through some of my weddings at what settings worked for indoor receptions. I am not really worried about noise as most of the time these pictures don't get enlarged. So the settings that I like for my Nikon D100 where iso800, 1/30, f2.8, and a SB800 that I either bounced or diffused for shots. They seemed to be most well balanced with ambient light and the flash. My question is 1) Do you agree with these settings? 2) How much do you increase your flash output? I have another wedding coming up that is all indoors so I am curious what you think of these settings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamie_thomas Posted July 28, 2006 Share Posted July 28, 2006 Well, personally, I donメt like shooting with a shutter under 1/60. Don't you get blurry images at 1/30? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bdp Posted July 28, 2006 Share Posted July 28, 2006 It's all subjective with settings depending on the location, color of walls, height of ceiling. <BR><BR> I usually shoot receptions around ISO 200-400, speed at 1/25 - 1/40 and F/5.6-8.0. The lighting is either bounced if close to a wall or a lower ceiling, or direct w/built in diffuser (I use Metz 60 flash units). <BR><BR> Jamie... you can shoot 1/15 even with no blur if the room is dark enough. Your flash will freeze it. <BR><BR> Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jennie farnsworth Posted July 28, 2006 Share Posted July 28, 2006 Ditto on Bob's settings. Jen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katydid Posted July 28, 2006 Author Share Posted July 28, 2006 I generally don't get a blur from 1/30 because my flash freezes the subject (if I am using it right!). The farther away my flash is from the subject the more likely that I will get a blur but I do have good luck with 1/30. I really like to capture as much ambiant light as possible. I personally had a very beautiful outdoor evening reception. We had thousands of twinkle light and candles haning in several very large walnut trees that provided the lighting for the reception. When I look back at my pictures I realize that none of them capture the ambiance of the evening. A lot of flash was used and there is no background light. There is none of the magic from the evening in my pictures. So I like to capture as much of the mood lighting as possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rich_taylor____mequon__wi Posted July 28, 2006 Share Posted July 28, 2006 I also use a slow shutter speed to record ambient light, but I often try to keep my lens pretty wide open (2.8) for two reasons. First, even though I want to register ambient light, I don't want it to be in focus. At 2.8, the DOF renders the background a soft blur which is not only visually pleasing but also helps to more enmphatically set off the subject. Second, if shooting a lot of images indoors, your batteries will be drained a lot faster if you are stopped down. Of course, individual situations may require changing settings. As Capt. Barbosa said, "They ain't really rules. They's more like guidelines." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katydid Posted July 28, 2006 Author Share Posted July 28, 2006 Rich- Those are good reasons for using f2.8. That is probably why I like those images more than the others at smaller apertures, I just hadn't thought it through that far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
picturesque Posted July 28, 2006 Share Posted July 28, 2006 You can't really state specfics because the settings depend on the amount of shutter drag you want to employ, size and color of the room (for bouncing), amount of ambient lighting present, DOF desired and subject motion. If you use just one set of ISO/aperture/shutter speed all the time for every indoor reception, you may be OK in many situations, but are going to run across a situation or two where that set won't work well, for one reason or another. For instance, your settings used at an indoor reception during the day where the place has a lot of windows and daylight streaming in will result in motion blur for dancing shots or any shots where the subjects are moving because your settings are too close to the actual ambient light, if not actually overexposing it. So answers are, 1) No, it depends. 2) Increase flash ouput depending upon subject lightness/darkness and previously tested known tendencies of the flash system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wedding-photography-denver Posted July 28, 2006 Share Posted July 28, 2006 Short of what Nadine offered (great advice, BTW), I read someone using iso200 - 400 with f5.6 - f8. I think that is down to personal preference and style. For me, F8 is almost a no go except in the case of formal groups and when I want to include sharp backgrounds. All other times I think the use of a far more shallow DOF is appropriate during receptions (IMHO). If you use wide angles, F4 will get you lots of sharp subject matter at reasonable distances from the subject. At f2 somewhat less. With tele's (such as 85mm and so on), f1.2 to f2 is where I like to be and no flash, if possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ned1 Posted July 28, 2006 Share Posted July 28, 2006 If you're using the flash and not worrying about ambient light it doesn't really matter what shutter speed you use as long as the flash will sync. I do a lot of corner and wall bounce and seem to wind up using the same settings as you except for a 1/60 shutter speed. I wish I didn't have to shoot at such a high ISO since you have to nail the exposure to avoid noise. If the room is small enough the first thing I down is lower the ISO. If I can get it down to 200 then I'll start tightening up the aperture. Keep in mind that many lenses fuzz up at 2.8. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wedding-photography-denver Posted July 28, 2006 Share Posted July 28, 2006 It really does depend on your style. As Edward says, if he can reduce the iso to 200 then he will begin to stop down the aperture. This would be a wise move IMO, long before you reduce the apertures. Of course I am always aiming for about 1/100 in AV for tele and 1/50 for the wider flavors of lens. If you have the $$$$, get some prime glass and use it to bits. Flash works for the boquet and garter, but for most reception work, iso and aperture are preferred to me...<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wedding-photography-denver Posted July 28, 2006 Share Posted July 28, 2006 oh, and to increase your flash output, lower the iso and stop down as the second line of attack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katydid Posted July 28, 2006 Author Share Posted July 28, 2006 Thanks for the info. I will start at what I mentioned, see how it goes and adjust from there. This will an evening reception so I don't think tha there will be to much light coming in the windows. I am going to scope it out in a week or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cjogo Posted July 28, 2006 Share Posted July 28, 2006 Either direct > with dome @ 60/ 5.6 or bounce (400) 1/5 to 1/15 @ 4.5 and flash at nearly f8 w/flip-it card ( Quantum Strobe ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david_eicher Posted July 30, 2006 Share Posted July 30, 2006 I am concern with depth of field focus in low light receptions. I use ISO 400 and shoot F8 at 1/30th of a second. No problems. Still using 120 format though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
picturesque Posted July 30, 2006 Share Posted July 30, 2006 David--look at DOF tables. For a 50mm Hasselblad lens, f5.6 gives plenty of DOF for reception candids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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