joe_ethridge Posted May 24, 2005 Share Posted May 24, 2005 I currently own an Epson 1280, and thought that I'd step up to an Epson 4000, due to the archival inks, larger format (for 16x20) , and savings in ink, over the long run (as opposed to an Epson 2200). I realize that Epson is about to market the 4800, but thought that since they are offering a rebate of $300.00 or free RIP by colorburst, perhaps I should go with the 4000. I'm currently an amature getting ready to go pro (yes, I realize what I'm getting in to, and no, you don't know the hell my present career has been these past 26 years. There is no turning back:) I'm just not sure if I'll be needing a RIP program. I prefer to keep things to a minimum if possible, and I'm not sure if I'll really get the most from a RIP. Perhaps the $300.00 rebate would be better. I know the 4000 is a big step from the 1280, but most of my prints (Hahnemuhle, Lumijet, parchment and velvet type) have been great without using a RIP. Any feedback on which way to go would be appreciated. Thanks, Joe:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doug_dolde Posted May 24, 2005 Share Posted May 24, 2005 Forget it.....buy the 4800 ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finepics Posted May 25, 2005 Share Posted May 25, 2005 You answered your own question Joe, most of your prints have been great without a RIP. RIPs are really meant for high volume digital labs rather than the home user. Take the rebate and get some custom paper profiles made instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mag_miksch Posted May 25, 2005 Share Posted May 25, 2005 IMO you only need the rip software if you want to print panorama pics, eg. 16x30, using roll paper; if you want to stay with the 16x20 size there is no need for a rip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
www.whitemountainphoto.com Posted May 25, 2005 Share Posted May 25, 2005 Mag, why would he need a rip for 16x30 roll paper? I just printed a 16x34 on roll paper Monday that came out absolutely stunning. Dana/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe_ethridge Posted May 25, 2005 Author Share Posted May 25, 2005 I appreciate the feedback, I'd probably get overwhelmed with the additional software, as I've got much to learn in so many areas, anyway. I guess now, my decision should be whether to buy the 4000, or go with the new model, the 4800. Thanks again, Joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john_laporte1 Posted May 26, 2005 Share Posted May 26, 2005 I print on epson 4000's and 7800's...you won't need a rip. But, check out Q Image Pro software. It will lay out all of your print sizes on the page size of your choice. It does a great job of sizing your output to just about anything you want. I've done 24x30's from 8x10 files and they are perfect. Best part... you can download it for abour $50.00. I print professionally using about 150 rolls of 24" paper per year. Q image is flawless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe_ethridge Posted May 27, 2005 Author Share Posted May 27, 2005 Great info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael_bement Posted July 1, 2005 Share Posted July 1, 2005 I was bummed a bit after hearing about the 4800 as I recently purchased a 4000, so I contacted Epson. After corresponding with Epson about the 4000/4800, it appears that the 4000 will still be marketed and sold as a premier solution for color printing. The 4800 is NOT an upgraded 4000, it just has a different ink system. The fellow indicated that the only area in which the 4800 will outperform the 4000 is B&W. After using the 4000 with RIP and comparing it with output from my 2200, I was very happy. I felt very comfortable that my prints would be just about as good as they can be. You certainly don't need a RIP, but it helps with B&W, and the profiles seem to be much more accurate than the standard thing. Other aspects of printing seem simplified and/or better quality as well. Now, I have added the X-Rite Pulse system, which seems to be provide a complete color management solution for me. It seems that 'color management' is another area that gives you what you pay for. With the 4000 and the Pulse, I am no longer 'guessing' or 'wondering' about what is going on. It may be overkill, but color management is an area in which I am very interested. I really want to know what is going on and be certain about it. You don't need that to make nice prints. Good luck, Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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