errol Posted June 2, 2006 Share Posted June 2, 2006 I am thinking of this setup for my santa shoot to get rid of shadows. Anyone know if there is a wire that goes from the 800 to fire the 600. I do not want to work wireless. Too much shutter delay with all those message flashes. I now work with a sc29 cord to to the 800. works fast. Errol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry_ Posted June 3, 2006 Share Posted June 3, 2006 There are two 'radio wave' triggers on the market. You might be able to configure the SB-800 and the SB-600 without a 'flash-method' or actual wire-to-wire set-up. You might consider a web search.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david_h._hartman Posted June 3, 2006 Share Posted June 3, 2006 Errol,<br> <br> The SB-600 does not have a TTL Multiple Flash Terminal so as a minimum you will need a Nikon AS-10 ($40.00, USD) and a Nikon SC-26 TTL Multi Flash Sync Cord - 1.5m (5), ($30.00) or a Nikon SC-27 TTL Multi Flash Sync Cord - 3m (10), ($40.00).<br> <br> If two SB-800 are used on one bank is there a delay?<br> <br> Id use two SB-800(s). If 3m (10) isnt long enough you many be able to buy a TTL Multi Flash Sync Cord from Paramount.<br> <br> Regards,<br> <br> Dave Hartman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank_skomial Posted June 3, 2006 Share Posted June 3, 2006 The SB-800 has 2 sockets on the body. One is an ordinary PC sync socket that will trigger your SB-600 using inexpensive single (pair) wire cord, but perhaps you will need a PC socket to hot shoe (only single central trigger pin in the hot shoe needed) adapter for your SB-600. I do not have SB-600, but perhaps it has the Nikon specific sync socket ? that requires special cable ? - investigate this avenue youself, but the Nikon dedicated multiwire/multipin sync cord is expensive, but possibly could provide flash output control ? - I am not sure about it. Depending on the type of the PC to hot shoe adapter, you may need isolate other than central trigger pins on SB-600 in the shoe with a piece of thin plastic or paper. By connecting SB-800 to SB-600 by single pin wire, SB-800 would not be able to control output of SB-600, but certainly it will trigger it at the exposure time. Having said that, I need to say that giving up iTTL for the sake of wire connection is a bad idea. Rather than that get the SU-800 to control output from both your flashes, with reduced amount of flashing, due to SU-800 uses only infrared spectrum light for communication. Though SB-800 and SB-600 use both visible and infrared light for communication (unfortunately), so certain amount of preflashing will always be visible in the iTTL mode. Wire connection will work in non-iTTL mode (most likely you will need Manual setting for both flashes). In static environment, where Santa does not change position, and the distance between camera and object remains constant, once set exposure right, using a flash meter or by experimentation, you can keep shooting this way. As for reducing the delay, there are (or could be) few factors conributing to this, and one is the Aufo Focusing with Auto Focusing Assist light working, then followed by pre-flash communications. If you elimitane one you will have faster response, if you eliminate both you will get Manual operation mode. It is long time for next Santa arrival, so you will certainly find best solution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
errol Posted June 3, 2006 Author Share Posted June 3, 2006 thanks to all. ery usefull. Just wondering if the 800 could sync with my V 283 through the pc plug. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank_skomial Posted June 3, 2006 Share Posted June 3, 2006 "Just wondering if the 800 could sync with my V 283 through the pc plug." - Yes, perhaps any flash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lex_jenkins Posted June 3, 2006 Share Posted June 3, 2006 Errol, are you sure there will be a problem with delay from preflash when combining the SB-800 and SB-600? Reportedly this can vary depending on the camera. D70 owners have reported some preflash problems. I've had no CLS preflash problems with my D2H, which seems to be the experience shared by D2X users. Don't know about the D70s or D200. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
errol Posted June 3, 2006 Author Share Posted June 3, 2006 I am not worried bout the preflashes but about the delay. I used the comander mode on the 70 to trip the 800 and it is slow. I assume that the 800 would send the same flashes to the 600 and it would respond taking too long bofore exposure. Errol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david_h._hartman Posted June 4, 2006 Share Posted June 4, 2006 The SB-600 has a bunch of limitations. I can't remember them all. I don't think the savings of about $115.00 is worth the trouble of learning these limitations. If you buy the SB-800 you will save on accessories and have only one flash unit to learn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david_h._hartman Posted June 4, 2006 Share Posted June 4, 2006 <em>I am not worried bout the preflashes but about the delay. I used the comander mode on the 70 to trip the 800 and it is slow. --Errol Yount<br> </em><br> Are you sure the commander mode is slow or is AF, focus assist and or other camera functions getting in the way?<br> <br> Are you using AF-S or AF-C? Are you and can you use Release Priority with AF-S if you need that mode? Focus Priority can certainly throw a monkey wrench in the works. The camera can be pre-focused but if the camera doesnt know this it will say uncle until its damned well happy with its assessment of the focus.<br> <br> I use the AF-ON button on the D2H and F5 and disable AF at the shutter release. I press the AF-ON button to focus and release the AF-ON button to lock the focus. Set this way these cameras never tries to be helpful when I dont want its good intentions. If I need focus assist from my SB-800 I use AF-S but I set both cameras to release priority. When I press the shutter release, the camera complies in about 40ms. This is why you pay dearly for a pro spec camera. I cant abide a camera that takes the photo when its good and ready.<br> <br> The D70 and D70s use the long obsolete multi-CAM900 AF module. To the best of my knowledge you cannot have release priority with AF-S (single servo focus) so you will have to use AF-C (continuous servo focus) and custom function 15 to assign the AF-ON function to the AE-L/AF-L button and disable AF activation at the shutter release. Is your ambient light and the D70/D70s good enough for this?<br> <br> Forgive me for asking but are you using the wrong camera here? Ive been flamed all to hell for my comments on the D70 but I continue to read of peoples problems with its limitations. I do honestly try to help folks overcome the D70s limitations. Sometimes you do hit the limits of design.<br> <br> Maybe you can use an after market focus screen and use manual focus. Maybe the commander mode is just that slow and you'll need to use manual flash and a flash meter. Maybe its time to relegate the D70 to backup status? Please dont take offense. Id love to see you find a work around.<br> <br> Best,<br> <br> Dave Hartman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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