henry_minsky1 Posted February 20, 2005 Share Posted February 20, 2005 I have the Canon 20D, and am looking for a camera which is tiny andportable that I can carry with me in my pocket. What I want most ofall is image quality, for which I would be willing to give up mostanything else. That means, for example, I would give up a zoom lens if there were afixed focal length camera that had a better image. I'm interested in something the size of the Pentax Optio or the smallCasio Exilims. Does anyone know if there is a tiny camera that has substantiallybetter image quality than any of the others? I don't care so muchabout the number of megapixels, as I do about crisp images with goodcolor, lack of distortion, etc. So far, I think the Minolta DImage x31 seems to be the best qualityimages, and that is about the largest form factor I am interested in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew robertson Posted February 20, 2005 Share Posted February 20, 2005 I don't think you'll be pleased with the control or quality that any of the teeny tiny soap bar digicams give you compared to the 20D. Most are extremely noisy above ISO 200, almost all the ultra compacts have no manual control, and unless you use the often fiddly manual focus the release lag is quite intolerable. I'm waiting for a tiny camera with a fixed lens, a large sensor, a shutter release, and three knobs - shutter speed, aperture, and focus. I have this feeling I'll be waiting for a very long time indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark u Posted February 21, 2005 Share Posted February 21, 2005 If you're really interested in image quality in a pocketable package you should think about an Olympus Stylus Epic and going back to using film. Nothing digital comes anywhere close in that form factor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry_minsky1 Posted February 21, 2005 Author Share Posted February 21, 2005 I've already gone back to film for some things -- I have two Pentax Super ME SLRs which I use for stereo imaging. I was able to get these two small high quality SLR bodies with f1.4 50mm lenses with a full frame sensor (35mm film :-) ) for about $70 each on eBay. It will be another ten years I think until this price/performance is available in digital. When the price of the old Digital Rebels falls to about $200, maybe I'll try getting a pair of them for stereo. The real problem is how to display the digital images in stereo anyway. I'm trying to find a pair of small digicams to do stereo imaging, and for that a zoom isn't much use because it can be hard to make sure both lenses are zoomed the same amount anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
test11664875106 Posted February 21, 2005 Share Posted February 21, 2005 Sony T1 is probably the only of this category I'd buy. Walk into a store and see it yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dean_g Posted February 21, 2005 Share Posted February 21, 2005 "If you're really interested in image quality in a pocketable package you should think about an Olympus Stylus Epic and going back to using film. Nothing digital comes anywhere close in that form factor." True the Stylus Epic is a wonderful little camera. I used one for a few years and loved it. And I believe a well scanned 35mm film slide or negative can equal an APS-C sensor DSLR assuming the image is good to start with.. in theory. In practice it is a pain in the backside and there are small digicams that can offer excellent imaging quality, and allow you to get the picture where you wouldn't otherwise with big gear. I get photos from my Ricoh Caplio GX 5meg pocket digicam that are far better _pictures_ than anything I ever got from the Stylus Epic. And the quality DOES come close IMO. Plus it offers lower shutter lag, and the all the usual digital advantages of flexible ISO choices, 28mm - 85mm f/2.5(a faster lens), instant review... for which I give up very little vs the stylus epic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaron_w. Posted February 21, 2005 Share Posted February 21, 2005 With similar thoughts in mind, this past December I bought a Sony Cyber-shot DSC-V1 -- a great little 5MP digicam with a very sharp Zeiss Vario-Sonnar lens. It's not as tiny as some, but it is small enough for a jacket pocket or fanny-pack... I really love this digicam! When Sony replaced the V1 with the V3 last year, several stores, including Sears, started blowing out their V1's (I got mine for $299)... If you can still find one around that price, I would grab it. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard_meyers Posted February 21, 2005 Share Posted February 21, 2005 Henry - You might want to check out the new Olympus D630 - 5MP, 3.1x2.4x1, about $300 when available in April. Just announced at PMA Orlando. http://www.bytecamera.com/content/view/351/2/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dean_g Posted February 21, 2005 Share Posted February 21, 2005 The new Olympus Stylus Verve 5 meg sounds like a nice camera designed very much with the Stylus Epic film P&S in mind. Weather proof too, just like the film version. Just from what I've read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew robertson Posted February 21, 2005 Share Posted February 21, 2005 Henry, it's actually much easier to display digital images in stereo on the monitor than any other technique I know of. Just put the left one on the left, the right image on the right, and screw up your vision until they merge. Viola! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael_matsil Posted February 22, 2005 Share Posted February 22, 2005 Panasonic Lumix DMC-FX7. 2 1/2" screen (this screen practically has a teflon finish...very hard to scratch), Leica 2.8-5 vario-elmar, zoom range about 35-105 (35mm equiv.), Optical Image Stabalization (if you're careful...handheld down to 1/4-1/2 second and allows more shooting at low noise 100 ISO!), very nice build and quality (eg: steel tripod mount). Get the black version; it's got a nice finish that's stealthy and cleans up nicely.) Get a couple of extra batteries since it's a battery hog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter_werner1 Posted February 23, 2005 Share Posted February 23, 2005 The Canon Digital Ixus 500 (Powershot S500 in USA) is one of the better cameras in this category. I used one on my last vacation when i did not want to carry around my heavy DSLR and got excellent pictures. If you have time to wait (late march), a few days ago <b><i>Canon</b></i> presented an <a href="http://www.ephotozine.com/news/fullnews.cfm?NewsID=1958" target="_blank"> upgraded 7 Megapixel Digital Ixus 700</a> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webin_manzana Posted February 23, 2005 Share Posted February 23, 2005 It may be a good advice to stay away from Olympus Digital Cameras. I had CCD problem with my C-5050, and it's only 18 months old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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