drevil Posted August 29, 2006 Share Posted August 29, 2006 Would welcome an opinion on why I am getting noise in low light situations with my 20D at ISO 100. Its visible in the RAW image. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drevil Posted August 29, 2006 Author Share Posted August 29, 2006 Here is a crop at 100% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awindsor Posted August 29, 2006 Share Posted August 29, 2006 Are you by any chance using Adobe Camera RAW to develop your image. The chances are that your images are underexposed and being autocorrected by ACR. This correction exacerbates the noise in the image particularly in the shadows. Check out http://www.luminous-landscape.com/tutorials/cr-auto.shtml This seems to me the most likely. The other possibility is that the colour of the light is causing problems with the Bayer sensor (very different channel exposures) which can cause extreme problems when you try and white balance the image. The only possible remedy for this is a strong colour correction filter. Does setting the WB to daylight alleviate the noise ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drevil Posted August 29, 2006 Author Share Posted August 29, 2006 Thanks for that, I think you got it right first time. I went back and reconverted the original RAW file. WB adjustment made no difference but the exposure was exacerbating the noise in the shadows. Its much less noisy with the exposure setting turned down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awindsor Posted August 29, 2006 Share Posted August 29, 2006 I was clutching at straws in case it wasn't the exposure increase. Some lighting can certainly give horrible effects when you try and white balance. It happens with tungsten to a certain degree since the blue channel is the noisiest anyway and to balance tungsten you have to increase the blue channel considerably. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drevil Posted August 29, 2006 Author Share Posted August 29, 2006 Underwater there is very little in the red and green channels so I think you have a good point. But the ACR default overcooked the exposure and I didnt turn it down enough the first time. Thanks for replying because I'd read somewhere that the auto-focus servo can cause image noise and I thought it might be that. Except I'd shot in one shot mode so I was a bit puzzled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gromoslawpirx Posted August 29, 2006 Share Posted August 29, 2006 'using Adobe Camera RAW to develop your image' - that's a good one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnashings Posted August 30, 2006 Share Posted August 30, 2006 "develop the image" - I think that's so cute, in a pathetic, wannabe kind of way. Amazing, despite the myths, when you underexpose with a digital it still looks... underexposed... who'd a thunk it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awindsor Posted August 30, 2006 Share Posted August 30, 2006 "Develop" is standard terminology for RAW conversion, matches Adobe's terminology, and moreover matches the regular English usage. Get a life guys. Peter, the proper film analogy would be that a push processed image still looks push processed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve torelli Posted August 30, 2006 Share Posted August 30, 2006 Gromaslaw and Peter - other than posting arrogant and condescending remarks aimed at a long time member, do you have something of value to add to this thread? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drevil Posted August 30, 2006 Author Share Posted August 30, 2006 Thanks Alistair for replying, it totally answered my question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awindsor Posted August 30, 2006 Share Posted August 30, 2006 The servo focus issue is really only for high ISO and then only with certain lenses. You shouldn't see an effect at ISO 100. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim_mcdonald1 Posted August 31, 2006 Share Posted August 31, 2006 Sorry to hijack but along Steve's line; I learn loads from scanning these threads and my photography's improved as a direct result. I so much appreciate the time and effort that Alistair and others commit. Your comments are detailed, constructive and civil and I thank Alistair and the rest of you for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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