zahid Posted February 10, 2005 Share Posted February 10, 2005 I have a Canon Elan 7, but no external light source. I mostly take family photographs. The 580 seems out of my budget right now, the 420 fits the budget but I've heard has limited capability. Are there any third party flashes I should be looking at. Or am I missing some thing by looking at flashes only. Let me rephrase the question, what would be the best option for indoor lighting with aprox $200. I could save for some thing like the Alien Bees and get one in a few months, but my aim right now is to go digital when I can, so that's where the alleged saving are going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cecil_thornhill Posted February 10, 2005 Share Posted February 10, 2005 Just my opinion, but here goes... If you are really going to switch to or add a digital camera, and the money will help that I suggest doing that before you try to master flash. You can learn flash well on film, but it will cost more. You will get so much feedback from a digital system you can learn flash work in much less time. The cost of processing alone can be a real issue in getting very good with a flash, and even pro's used polaroids all the time in the days of film to see if the final result was right. By all means get yourself a flash if you need it now, but if you plan on doing complex or creative flash work I think it will be well worth your while to learn this with a DSLR (even a very modest one that uses flash). The older Canon DSLR's were and are great tools and used (when you find them) are now not so expensive...Not a lot more than the processing on the film you might use to learn with a flash. Just my opinion, others will feel differnt about it. Good Luck, Cecil Thornhill RidgeLight Studio Inc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wakeforce Posted February 10, 2005 Share Posted February 10, 2005 Get a colour conversion filter and 2-3 500W flood lamps at home depot, get 400 speed film and don't use a cheapie slow zoom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zahid Posted February 10, 2005 Author Share Posted February 10, 2005 Cecil, that is the primary reason I want to switch to digital, the instant feedback. My photgraphy indulgences come in spurts when I go camping or vacationing with the family. The results are usually not available until I get home, which is usally a combination of surprises and disappointments. Since I already have the 28-105 USM-II I will probably stay within the Canon DSLR system. That is why I was thinkging of buying a flash with the expectation that I can take it with me when I go digital (which I don't see happening for atleast another year). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zahid Posted February 10, 2005 Author Share Posted February 10, 2005 How about third party flashes, any recommendations for Canon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy_jin Posted February 10, 2005 Share Posted February 10, 2005 I've heard good things about the Sigma EF 500 DG Super (what a mouthful). It's fully compatible with Canon's flash system and I think it works with their ST-E2 Transmitter. I've heard that it's basically a Canon 550EX except for a lot cheaper. It's even got more power and recycles faster--check it out! It sells for exactly $200: http://www.adorama.com/SG500EOSDG.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cecil_thornhill Posted February 10, 2005 Share Posted February 10, 2005 Zahid, I understand. Getting a flash is not a bad thing at all! Far from it - I and most people had a flash before we went digital. I understand the 'surprise factor' that can come with getting your film back. Learning with flash can be lots more of that. Like I said, by all means get one if you need one. Most people I know whith the excellent Canon system stick to the Canon flash. I am sure many people here on photo.net will have expericance to share about that, and third party options. All I wanted to point out is that your success rate and speed of learning to get better shots is going to go way up with a DSLR because you can see what you get as you get it. This makes it a lot easier to see what not to do. I would not recomend someone get studio lights (like and AB) before they have gotten used to flash with a speedlight type unit on and off camera. That is just me - everyone has to go the way they see fit. I just think that with a good DSLR and a speedlight and a few modifiers you can do and learn a lot fast, then you will be ready for more complex lighting when you get it. Good Luck, Cecil Thornhill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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