Shooting Ilfochrome paper in camera

[peter_roberts4]

I want to study the possibility to shoot Ilfochrome Deluxe paper in

16x20 or 20x24 camera. Color films in these sizes are obviously not

available. Shooting color paper may be one of the ways to shoot

color photo.

 

Someone said that to use Kodak 2E or 85B color correction filter if

Ilfochrome paper is exposed in daylight. Is it corrected?

 

Second question is to shoot photo paper directly in the camera

results in reversed image. It is very obvious if letters are

included in the photo or sights which are very common. Do you have

any suggestion to make correction?

[c_p_goerz]

I tried this and got some amazing results, I never needed any CC filters and I could count the oranges in a tree hundreds of yards away with a loupe!! No chrome to lose sharpness and no enlarging lens to reduce sharpness further, truly excellent and quite possibly the only way to shoot colour in ULF. I got ISO 25 when I developed the print in the beers formula not the Ilford stuff.

 

 

One way around the reversed image is to try and find a rare prism lens(A Goerz Artar was the standard lens for this procedure) that would reverse the image for you and if you turned the lens the image would also turn to whatever orientation. The drawbacks are- horribly expensive and rare and as a bonus you can't close the lens down as the prism takes the place of the iris.

[peter_roberts4]

CP Goerz

 

Thanks for your input.

 

How about shooting Ilfochrome Clear Film? With this film, there is no more problem on the reserved image.

 

By the way, what is the beers formula?

[john_cremati]

Hi, I have not tried this but it is on my list of things that I must absolutley must try... I was given a "Van Load" of Ilfochrome by a local lab that went under and was told that you can do this shooting at a ASA of about 5....... Please keep me informed of your progress and let me know what size your shooting and all details..........I will do the same......John Cremati

[c_p_goerz]

I keep forgetting that a lot of folk are unfamiliar with this formula.....<P>

 

 

The Beers formula.<P>

 

Solution A<P>

 

8g Metol<P>

8g Sulphite<P>

20g Pot Carb<P>

1.1g Bromide<P>

 

 

Solution B<P>

 

8g Hydroquinone<P>

23g Sulphite<P>

27g Carbonate<P>

2.2g Bromide<P>

 

High contrast prints = 2 parts A to 14 of B.<P>

Medium is 5 of A to 3 of B and 8 parts water<P>

Low contrast print 8 parts of A and 0 of B and 8 parts of water.<P>

 

For Ilfochrome mix in 1.2g of sodium thiosulphate per liter of working solution

to dissolve the masking layer. Experiment with the dilution of developer to

water as you may find that you need to dilute the developer a bit. With this

formula you'll find that there will be less trouble from filter pack swings(in the

darkroom exposure) and you'll also get a slight film speed bonus. Images shot

in camera are pretty much cast free except for perhaps a slight variation from

paper batch but even that seems to be less of an issue.<P>

 

 

CP Goerz

[richard_ilomaki]

Hi CP

 

Excuse my ignorance, but does Ilfochrome paper use B&W developers?

 

Thanks

[c_p_goerz]

Sure does, you can make every step in the process but for the bleach with

standard B+W developers. Ilfochrome is a dye destruction based emulsion, all

the colours are in the paper already and are selectively bleached out.

 

The fixer can be just your standard rapid fix, don't try to overextend it, just use

all of the chemicals as one shot. That being said and the bleach being so

expensive you can make a 50/50 mix of fresh and old to extend it out a bit. If

you do that though check the colour as it may drift to warmer slightly I found.

 

 

CP Goerz.

[peter_roberts4]

Dear C P Goerz,

 

Many thanks for your info.

 

Is the formula you mentioned above is for one litre working solution?

 

Do you have experience of using and procssing Ilfochrome Display film by this formula?

[c_p_goerz]

I never tried the display material but I don't see why it wouldn't work. Yes, the

formula is for 1 liter.

 

CP Goerz

[martin_pistor]

Hi CP,

 

did you use the other chemistry (Bleach and Fix) from the P3/P30 set, or did you also mix them from the scratch?

Thanks,

Martin

[marco_annaratone1]

Greetings!

 

Shooting in-camera Ilfochrome is not that complicated, although the dependency of color cast on exposure time makes it

a bit complicated to come up with the best filter pack. But it can be done, it's actually not big of a deal. I posted some

examples in the third part of the article "Going Ultra" in www.1827.eu if you are interested in the subject. The beauty of

Ilfochrome - for those who appreciate its look, of course - does compensate for the cumbersome procedure (not to speak

of carrying around a 14x17 camera, in my case...).

 

Cheers!

 

Marco

[dennis_williams4]

<p>Hi<br>

Ilford has a section on Ilfochrome on their web site.<br>

They call for P3 processing.<br>

I can seem to find a stocking dealer.<br>

Being a direct positive paper the image will be reversed left to right. I understand there is a transparency version available. I don't know if this can be used as a negative for contact printing.<br>

Not a major problem for most subjects.<br>

Their blog covered a room size camera they were working on. Huge print</p>