glogower Posted March 3, 2005 Share Posted March 3, 2005 I shoot alot of pictures at my daughters dance performance in low light situations and want to know if the 70-200mm f2.8L IS, would be my best choice? Or if there would be a better choice of lenses.Thanks for your input. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhiren Posted March 3, 2005 Share Posted March 3, 2005 depends on what focal length you are looking for ? 200 ? 300 ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glogower Posted March 3, 2005 Author Share Posted March 3, 2005 I am mostly in theaters about 5-15 rows back, but can go most any distance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barmijo Posted March 3, 2005 Share Posted March 3, 2005 DSLR or film? If you can go to ISO 3200 then f/2.8 should be sufficient. Of course, if you have the money to buy/rent one, the 85 f/1.2 is about as fast as they come and also one of the sharpest ever built. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t_c5 Posted March 3, 2005 Share Posted March 3, 2005 Canon's best lens for low light work it would have to be the FD 50mm f0.95 - they don't come much faster than this... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soboyle www.oboylephoto.co Posted March 3, 2005 Share Posted March 3, 2005 Many of the primes would qualify, 85 1.8, 100 2.0, 135 2.0 50 1.4, not to mention the expensive lenses already mentioned. If your shooting digital, you can pump the iso to 1600 and clean it up with noise reduction software like Noise ninja, works very well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
del_gray Posted March 3, 2005 Share Posted March 3, 2005 While the two lenses listed above are indeed phenomenal for what you ask, you can get close to the same performance for much less money with a 50/1.4 or 85/1.8. A zoom would indeed be nice when you are stuck in a chair and can't move around very well, but the 2.8 maximum aperture is not really very fast. If you have a DSLR you can bump up the ISO and do just fine, but if you want to shoot with slower ISO (film or digital) then a fast prime lens is the way to go. The trick would be finding the right focal length for the type of shots you do. Do you want to get a feel for the whole stage? Then the 50/1.4 would probably work best (or the 50/1.8 for a real bargain). If you like to get a closer shot of one or two dancers, I've used the 85/1.8 for this and been very happy with it. If you want to go even longer but still keep a big aperture, your only real choice is the 200/1.8, which is horribly expensive and discontinued I believe. Personally I would get both the 50/1.4 and the 85/1.8 for half the price combined of the 70-200/2.8 zoom (and maybe even add the 200/2.8) for a kit that would give much better low light performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul - Posted March 3, 2005 Share Posted March 3, 2005 From the looks of your dance photos taken with the 70-200 IS, you could be telling us!<p>The IS allows you to use a slower hand-held shutter speed, which helps in low light, but slower speeds tend not to work well with moving subjects. Apparently you have already had lowlight success with that lens though!<P>If you want to use a higher shutter speed to help avoid motion blur, the excellent optics and wider apertures of the 50mm/1.4 and 85mm/1.8 make them good choices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roger krueger Posted March 3, 2005 Share Posted March 3, 2005 Depending on your focal length needs and budget the 135/2 and 35/1.4 are both winners. The 200/1.8 is wonderful, but getting very expensive since discontinued. The IS won't help much--you'll be limited by the movement of the dancers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pierre_bize Posted March 3, 2005 Share Posted March 3, 2005 I currenly use the 85 1.2 for concerts were musicians are snot moving around a lot. For dance performance it depends... The AF in this lens leaves some to be desired. I have tried to shoot a martial art contest but with the fighters jumping all around the place I had a hard time getting a single infocus shot. If the dancing style implies a lot of moving around on the the stage I would definitely recommand the 85mm 1.8 over the 1.2 for more info read this: http://www.wlcastleman.com/equip/reviews/85mm/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhiren Posted March 3, 2005 Share Posted March 3, 2005 70-200 2.8 IS is a good option because of zooming ability. if you could use a monopod, you would have more options ... 135 f2, 200 f2.8 or 100 f2 would all qualify ... first you need to decide whether a zoom lense or prime and how much you would be able to use while not photographing in theaters ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bens Posted March 3, 2005 Share Posted March 3, 2005 IS worthless with moving dancers and athletes. you must use a monopod or tripod and get to a shutter speed of 1/250; the rest (iso, focal length, zoom or prime) is up to you. i have the sigma 70-200 and like it, but i sometimes have to go to the 85/1.8 and 50/1.4 for theater or indoor sports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter_phan Posted March 3, 2005 Share Posted March 3, 2005 F/2.8 might not be fast enough if the light is very low. You may need to go to a faster lens, like the 50/1.4, 85/1.8 or 100/2.0. On the other hand, if you time your shots correctly, you can still get a good percentage of keepers with an f/2.8 by shooting when there's not a lot of quick motion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PuppyDigs Posted March 3, 2005 Share Posted March 3, 2005 EF 50 1.0L USM can't be beat for low light shooting. Sometimes the light’s all shining on me. Other times I can barely see. - Robert Hunter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew robertson Posted March 4, 2005 Share Posted March 4, 2005 It also can't be purchased for less than $3000, and mostly can't be purchased at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catchlight Posted March 4, 2005 Share Posted March 4, 2005 Andy, Del Gray described the most effective affordable solution about 10 posts back: the EF 50mm f1.4 and 85mm f1.8. I owned the EF 135 f2L for a while, but with the 1.6x and 1.3x crop of my DSLRs found it great for headshots of actors, but too long for dancers when you want whole bodies in the shots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klfi Posted March 4, 2005 Share Posted March 4, 2005 Andy, What is your budget? The "best" lens for these dance performances for 10 rows back would probably be the 200mm f/1.8L. Realistically, a 200/2.8, 135/2, 100/2, 85/1.8 would all be great. Depends on the focal length you want. The 70-200IS might be just a little too slow and the IS would not help you freeze action. have fun choosing cheers Kev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casey mcallister Posted March 4, 2005 Share Posted March 4, 2005 For hand held, use a 35L @1.4 TV30 = EV6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casey mcallister Posted March 4, 2005 Share Posted March 4, 2005 Now I don't read well do I. Hmmm...Telephotos of dance = 135L at f2 TV125 = EV9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glogower Posted March 4, 2005 Author Share Posted March 4, 2005 I also have a 28-70mm F2.8L and am concidering upgrading from the digital rebel to the 20D. Do you guys think this would affect the lens choice. I do want to be able to sell these photo's to the parents of the dancers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sujit_kumar Posted March 18, 2010 Share Posted March 18, 2010 <p>Why nobody talked about Tamron AF 17-50mm F/2.8 ? It is very affordable (under 500 USD) and works well for Low Light Photography (If not the best).</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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