marc_lieberman1 Posted January 31, 2005 Share Posted January 31, 2005 I was downtown with my family on Saturday, a beautiful sunny afternoon. I had with me a "new" 50mm Nokton that I received in trade from David Benito (Gracias, David) and the slowest film in my refrigerator- Astia 100. The entire roll has an over-the-top blue cast that cannot be color-balanced away gracefully. It makes buildings look surreal and people so bad that the only thing to do is "channel mix" them into black and white. Could some one please tell me what this film is good for? I've got a bunch of this stuff. Velvia too. Does anyone want to swap for some black and white?<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jan_brittenson Posted January 31, 2005 Share Posted January 31, 2005 Is that really what the developed film looks like, or what it scans like? If the film really looks like that there's something seriously wrong with the film or the lab. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al_kaplan1 Posted January 31, 2005 Share Posted January 31, 2005 Dang that's BLUE! Maybe they made up a batch of type B (designed for 3200K studio lighting) and packed it for daylight film by mistake? See if you can borrow an 85B filter, or even an 85A (designed for 3400K "photofloods") and see what it looks like. Both filters are salmon colored. I've got an 85B in 39mm around here someplace, probably a single coated Hoya. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry_ Posted January 31, 2005 Share Posted January 31, 2005 Blue sky reflects blue light. You need a filter (a Tiffen 812?) to cut the blue effect. It is not 100 percent the film's fault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marc_lieberman1 Posted January 31, 2005 Author Share Posted January 31, 2005 Jan- The scan is accurate. Astia is slide film and it looks the same on my slide table. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al_kaplan1 Posted January 31, 2005 Share Posted January 31, 2005 That's about the way the old High Speed Ektachrome Type B looked if you used it in daylight without an 85B filter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eliot_rosen1 Posted January 31, 2005 Share Posted January 31, 2005 Marc. I've never seen anything like that except when I used tungsten-balanced slide film in daylight. I wonder if it has something to do with the developer chemistry? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al_kaplan1 Posted January 31, 2005 Share Posted January 31, 2005 Marc, I could mail you that filter (if I can find it;-)and you can return it when you get back to Miami to finish up that case you're working on. Let me know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marc_lieberman1 Posted January 31, 2005 Author Share Posted January 31, 2005 Al- What slow color slide film would you recommend. I don't mind mildly saturated colors like Portra VC, but should I'd like the film have a daylight color balance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_west Posted January 31, 2005 Share Posted January 31, 2005 filter as the others said. tho' these can be easily corrected. blue cast is in the HL's. in levels>blue channel move midtones to the right and open up the red. plus some minor tweaking and you're done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marc_lieberman1 Posted January 31, 2005 Author Share Posted January 31, 2005 Al- Thanks for the offer, but I don't have any lenses that take 39mm filters. Does anyone know what size filter the 50mm Nokton takes? There is no number on the lens itself. If anyone wants to sell a UV and/or yellow filter for that lens I would buy it. (Or give them all my Astia and Velvia for it.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael s. Posted January 31, 2005 Share Posted January 31, 2005 Hi, Marc -- pretty sure the filter is 52mm inside the hood. The Kodak 100 I've used does not do that, although on some shots the sky and the blue jeans looked off when initially scanned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al_kaplan1 Posted January 31, 2005 Share Posted January 31, 2005 Marc, I'd bring that film back and complain! I think Kodak still makes ISO Elitechrome 100 EB (amateur)and Ektachrome 100 EPP (professional). Not many people shoot slides anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpursley Posted January 31, 2005 Share Posted January 31, 2005 That's messed up. I use Astia every week and have never seen anything like it. Any chance something happened to that one roll? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marc_lieberman1 Posted January 31, 2005 Author Share Posted January 31, 2005 Thanks for the informatin Steve and Elliot. I think I've got a lot more to learn about the basics before I start worrying about corrective filters. Like remembering to put film in the camera. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve g Posted January 31, 2005 Share Posted January 31, 2005 I just developed some Astia from my 6x6 folder:<br><center> <img src="http://www4.pbase.com/xx573v3xx/image/39202201.jpg" width=400><br> Zeiss Super Ikonta 532/16<br></center> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark_ng Posted January 31, 2005 Share Posted January 31, 2005 that's the bluest water I've ever seen Why bother with a filter...just get different film next time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john_amiet2 Posted January 31, 2005 Share Posted January 31, 2005 Marc, do you have a blue filter on your lens? Seriously, just have a look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john_amiet2 Posted January 31, 2005 Share Posted January 31, 2005 I actually like the first two shots as they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joshchapman Posted January 31, 2005 Share Posted January 31, 2005 That looks exactly like the few shots of Tungsten film I've accidently shot in daylight (see, I've mastered loading film in the camera before I go out, just not necessarily the right one...) <br> I've found good results with provia 100, I haven't really experimented that much. Here's a shot with provia, and the skintones seem decent enough:<p> <center><img src="http://d6d2h4gfvy8t8.cloudfront.net/3080582-lg.jpg"></center><p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abufletcher Posted January 31, 2005 Share Posted January 31, 2005 How wonderfully retro of Fuji! Now you can get that 20 year old Ektachrome slide look -- WITHOUT THE WAIT! Seriously, I might test one more roll and if it's the same, I'd take the stuff back and ask for either my money or an exchange. And don't settle for any BS that it was yourf fault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricM Posted January 31, 2005 Share Posted January 31, 2005 it's not the film, it's the photographer shooting past 5200k in the day, that's all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve g Posted January 31, 2005 Share Posted January 31, 2005 This is definetely a problem with your sample or processing, not the film itself. I have used Astia from a variety of sources and labs with nothing like the extreme blue cast you have shown here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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