pablo_s Posted December 22, 2004 Share Posted December 22, 2004 I try to stick with Canon glass, but I'm open to consider good deals from third party manufacturers. I've never considered Vivitar since their zooms seem to be the utmost crap, but I've read elsewhere that the 100/3.5 is actually a decent lens. I would use it mainly as a learning tool for macro work; I don't expect miracles from it, but yes some decent pictures that allow me to evaluate my progress. The alternative would be a good close-up lens (like 250D) for my 85/1.8, but that would give me less magnification, and I like the convenience of a dedicated macro lens. Any opinions will be welcome, thanks! PS. I know I have to save for the EF 100/2.8 macro. I will, but as I said I want to learn and see how interested I get in macro photography first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnb Posted December 22, 2004 Share Posted December 22, 2004 I have the Vivitar 100mm f/3.5 macro and I thought it was a good lens for the money. I used it on my old Minolta system and had many good shots with it. However the Canon 100mm f/2.8 is better and worth the extra cost (to me). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob_murray Posted December 22, 2004 Share Posted December 22, 2004 I use the Canon 500D and the results are great. The 250D would work well on your 85mm and if you get a 100 macro later it would also work on there for even more magnification. Sure is convenient to just pop on a 3oz $80 filter than a 2lb $500 lens. We have the 100 USM. Its big, its heavy, its got an enormous $30 hood that you need, its sharp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
www.antiquecameras.net Posted December 22, 2004 Share Posted December 22, 2004 <p>The Cosina/Phoenix/Vivitar 100/3.5 macro is built like a plastic toy but has surprisingly good performance. For the money ( buy used on ebay for about $ 65 ), its worth owning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy10 Posted December 22, 2004 Share Posted December 22, 2004 Have you thought about the tamron 90mm f/2.8 macro lens.. Its cheap (compared to canon), light and performs wonderfully.. I would advise you to put you money in this lens, you wont feel the need to get the canon 100mm macro lens.. There are couple of other options you could think of for macro - (1) try extension tubes or (2)try getting reverse ring which could allow you to reverse mount your 50mm/1.8 on your 85mm/1.8.. happy shooting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawn_hooper Posted December 22, 2004 Share Posted December 22, 2004 You get what you pay for. The Canon is the better lens. There is a difference (coincidentally, directly proportional to cost) between lenses. However, if this is what you can have now, start with that and work your way up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexdi Posted December 22, 2004 Share Posted December 22, 2004 A second vote for the Tamron macro. DI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pablo_s Posted December 22, 2004 Author Share Posted December 22, 2004 Thanks for the answers, this forum is awesome! I keep hearing that the Tamron is very good and cheaper than the Canon. However, at least in the US they seem to be around the same price (the Tamron is $480 at BH, there's a rebate, but same goes for the Canon). Am I missing something? Is the Tamron actually better than the Canon? And how does it compare to the Canon 85/1.8? (they are too close in focal length and they are both relatively expensive for me, so I couldn't justify having both). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chip l. Posted December 22, 2004 Share Posted December 22, 2004 The Tamron lens does test equal in most tests I have seen compared to the Canon. The Tamron does offer rebates that might make it a little cheaper to the Canon. One suggestion I have to save money till you know that Macro is for you is close up lenses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pablo_s Posted December 22, 2004 Author Share Posted December 22, 2004 Well, that Tamron is out of reach at the moment. The problem I see with close-up lenses is that the working range is so small that if I'm putting them on a prime (and I will, becase my better lenses are primes), I have very little compositional flexibility. What are the maximum and minimum focusing distances with a 250D attached to, say, the 50/1.8? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awindsor Posted December 22, 2004 Share Posted December 22, 2004 I own the Tamron macro. Optically it is probably very slightly superior to the Canon however it lacks a tripod collar and its AF is slower than the Canon, which is not of particular importance for macro photography but is of interest if you intend to use the lens as a portrait lens. Despite the USM motor the 100/2.8 does not focus very quickly though faster than the Tamron. I bought the Tamron when I dwelt in England since it was substantially cheaper. Had I purchased a macro lens in the US I would probably have got the Canon. For macro on a budget I would suggest a combination of dioptre lenses and extension tubes. Unlike a cheap macro lens these have other applications. I haven't used the Vivitar so I cannot comment directly. The best thing to happen to macro photography since TTL flash has to be digital cameras. The immediate feedback is absolutely ideal for macro work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter_foiles2 Posted December 22, 2004 Share Posted December 22, 2004 I believe it was the founder of photo.net who said it is actually quite hard to make a bad 100 macro. The vivitar is cheaply built and wide open it may not be so hot but when shooting macro you are going to stopped down to at least f11 and in that situation the vivatar can hold it'w own with the best of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wallbanger Posted December 23, 2004 Share Posted December 23, 2004 perhaps you should investigate the sharpness level of any lens you buy on the www.photodo web site. Click on products and it has extensive list of manufactures of lens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yakim_peled1 Posted December 23, 2004 Share Posted December 23, 2004 1. I hear that this 100/3.5 lens is rather good at normal macro apertures e.g. f/8-16. 2. Instead of the 250D consider Nikon's 6T. With my 85/1.8 it's nearly life-size (never measured exactly). 3. If you are only interested in macro, buy a macro lens. If you are also interested in portraits (like me) than the 85/1.8 + 6T is an excellent combo. Happy shooting, Yakim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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