thomas_kolbo Posted December 19, 2004 Share Posted December 19, 2004 About the third week of September, Fuji announced a new CD-r storage media called PhotoDisc which is a 80 min. 700 Mb 48x disc with a new or derivative dye and made on a black substrate instead of the clear polycarbonate. The claim is that it's longevity is up to ten times that of their regular cd-r's and by the name is designed for photo storage. I first saw this post on Photo-i, a UK site and then elsewhere. If one does a search for the product, you will only find it listed on UK and Canadian sites as "Fujifilm PhotoDisc Cd-r" or Fuji Cd-r for Photo, with a product ID of P10DCRCA13A which I assume is a box of ten Cd-r's. Has anyone seen this posted or found it in the USA? Seems like we are stuck with our normal junk here with the exception of a new product from Delkin called Archival Gold which is a gold covered CD-r with what they clain is an archival life of 300 yrs. Anyway, I'm hoping someone knows about the Fuji product. Thanks TDK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmi Posted December 19, 2004 Share Posted December 19, 2004 The gold "archival" CDs are avialable at numerous places: http://store.mam-a-store.com/standard---archive-gold.html http://www.pictureline.com/computers/media/mitsui.html http://www.datamediastore.com/mamicd7452xg.html http://www.inkjetart.com/mitsui/index.html http://www.mediasupply.com/cd-r-media-mam-a.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas_kolbo Posted December 19, 2004 Author Share Posted December 19, 2004 Yes, the Archival Gold is not hard to find and can be ordered from Delkin directly as well. Fuji is another story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam_kern Posted December 19, 2004 Share Posted December 19, 2004 What's the storage life of a normal CD-R? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_unsworth1 Posted December 19, 2004 Share Posted December 19, 2004 Adam, I don't know but I've had some fail after three years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john_h.1 Posted December 19, 2004 Share Posted December 19, 2004 Remember those days when people used film? Didn't that stuff keep for decades? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob_lazzarini Posted December 19, 2004 Share Posted December 19, 2004 CDs?<br> While the info so far provided here is very useful...<br> With the size and quantity of my photo images, DVDs are a vital necessity, where as CDs are looking more like floppies in relatve size capacity.<br> Does anyone know of the life span of DVDs, and which ones are best for archiving photos?<br> Cheers!<p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill_tuthill Posted December 19, 2004 Share Posted December 19, 2004 It would be a reasonable (but not necessarily valid) assumption that the dyes used in CDRs have similar longevity when used in DVDs. First I heard over the Internet, and then encountered people I know, who have had Mitsui=>MAM-A gold CDRs fail, probably due to faded dye. It would be instructive to find out what type of money-back guarantee you get on their 300 year claim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevierose Posted December 19, 2004 Share Posted December 19, 2004 <a href="http://www.robgalbraith.com/bins/content_page.asp?cid=7-6462-743">Newly published government study on CD/DVD longevity</a> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevierose Posted December 19, 2004 Share Posted December 19, 2004 Let's try that again:<p> <a href="http://www.robgalbraith.com/bins/content_page.asp?cid=7-6462-7431">Newly published government study on CD/DVD longevity</a> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill_tuthill Posted December 21, 2004 Share Posted December 21, 2004 Thanks Steve! That late 2004 NIST paper clearly shows that "Silver + Gold, Phthalocyanine" (Mitsui MAM-A?) is the most durable in both high temperature/humidity and continuous metal-halide light. Only one "Silver, metal-stabilized Cyanine" (Taiyo-Yuden?) was tested and it was OK in light but poor in temperature/humidity. Super Azo performed the worst, as did most (but not all) Silver Phthalocyanine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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