richard_knapp Posted December 26, 2004 Share Posted December 26, 2004 I do a lot of indoor, flash photography at colorful family events, using the SB-28 with a stoffen diffuser, F100, Ekatcrhome 100VS slide film, and typically the 17-35mm zoom or 20mm. (I just to the 85mm 1.4 for a holiday NAS fix, and will start trying that with a flash as needed.) I find this system quite forgiving, but I sometimes suffer from harsh lighting and shadows. I'm seeking to fine tune my technique, perhaps by getting a softer, more natural look. What tips can you give me about SB-28 angle, flash and exposure settings, and diffuser use. Generally, I put the angle at 60 degrees (bounce flash) and keep the stoffen difuser on. (I shoot in the TTL mode, fully automatic in the Program mode, spot metering. I don't manually adjust aperature, shutter, or output levels on the flash, because I don't really know how despite reading the SB-28 manaul 100 times). To soften the shadows, should I stand the flash gun straigt up (and loose the Stoffen but put the white card up)? Should I try reducing the flash output levels, and how do you do that? Should I use the built in diffuser instead of the Stoffen? Lot's of little combos. Any tips? Any good Nikon flash manuals (that B&H actually has in stock)? Thanks so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_levine Posted December 26, 2004 Share Posted December 26, 2004 You might try using the flash on a bracket, that holds the light about a foot above the lens.This, combined with keeping subjects away from walls, will all but eliminate shadows.Im not sure how wide a lens your SB28 unit will cover.You be could be getting "flash fall off", around the edges at 17mm? Much is written about the "sto-fen".My tests, found these to be useless except under very specific circumstances.(Indoors with close walls & low ceilings,both painted white).Outdoors, the light from a 45` angled head ,has nothing to reflect off of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_muntz Posted December 26, 2004 Share Posted December 26, 2004 I think the main problem is that you're using spot metering. Put it on Matrix and you should be in good shape. The F100 + SB28 is a great setup. Usually when I shoot a lot of flash shots I also use a bracket (Stroboframe Camera Flip) and no omnibounce or diffuser. The output is lower this way so the flash recycles quicker (other option is to get an external battery pack if this is a problem). With the omnibounce in TTL, you don't need to bounce it like you do in Auto mode. The effect of the omnibounce is best (my experience) with it bounced at 45 deg (60 shouldn't be too much different though) with a fairly low white ceiling. Also, E100VS might be tough in a lot of situations. E100G or GX might be a better choice depending on what you're shooting - if you need chromes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james_ogara1 Posted December 26, 2004 Share Posted December 26, 2004 What Steve said. Also, consider using in M or A vice P mode. I have read that these are more predictable with TTL flash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregory_roush Posted December 26, 2004 Share Posted December 26, 2004 The program mode doesn't allow the slow shutter speeds necessary in low light situations. If the ambient light doesn't burn in, then the flash looks harsh and you can get ugly shadows. Take the next step and put the camera in manual mode. Meter for the ambient light in matrix mode, choosing an aperture and adjusting shutter speed until the meter is neutral or -0.5. Then shoot. Beware, shutter speeds can be pretty long. If the flash is still too strong, dial in some negative flash compensation until you like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnabdas Posted December 26, 2004 Share Posted December 26, 2004 You might want to try something like this <P> <a href="http://rick_oleson.tripod.com/index-82.html">http://rick_oleson.tripod.com/index-82.html</a> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ofey_kalakar Posted December 27, 2004 Share Posted December 27, 2004 Magic Lantern has an excellent book on the SB-28. To soften the image you may want to consider a soft focus filter, like a Soft tar from Zeis. I haven't used the Ektachrome VS, but doesn't this film saturate colors resulting in contrasty images? Have you tried Kodac Portra or Fuji equivelent in order to soften the mood of the image? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaius1 Posted December 27, 2004 Share Posted December 27, 2004 Trust the matrix meter, it is your friend! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vuyisich Posted December 27, 2004 Share Posted December 27, 2004 I would say that it is the film that's causing your problems. I have shot identical scenes with Provia, Velvia, and Kodak 100VS, and Kodak has the narrowest exposure latitude. The contrast of the scene has to be very low. I would recommend switching to one of the Portra films, as they are supposed to be the best for portraits. Good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard_knapp Posted December 28, 2004 Author Share Posted December 28, 2004 Thanks so much for your great input -- this is a wonderful service to me. I'll experiment with Porta film instead of E100VS; definitely go with Matrix metering; look into better difusers than the probably worthless Sto-Fen; check out Magjic Latern; and maybe get a flash bracket. Thanks again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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