thomas_hardy1 Posted October 9, 2006 Share Posted October 9, 2006 What was the kit lens for a newer (later) 501CM? Did they come with different versions of an 80mm? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tariq_gibran Posted October 9, 2006 Share Posted October 9, 2006 Introduced 1997 and Supplied with the New 80mm C lens which had the exact same optical design as the CF but lacked the F setting for the 2000 or 200 series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tariq_gibran Posted October 9, 2006 Share Posted October 9, 2006 oops, looks like that would be an 80mm CB lens which was not the same optically and had 6 instead of 7 elements. Richard Nordin claims both in different sections of his book "Hasselblad System Compendium" so my first answear must be a misprint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roland_haid Posted October 10, 2006 Share Posted October 10, 2006 The 501C/M came with a Planar CB 2.8/80 that has indeed a different optical formula with one lens less than the standard CF/CFE Planar. In addition, it lacks the F-button. The performance is the same as the CFE(7 lens) version, except for the outer edge of the film plane (3-4mm), where the CFE has a flatter field. Otherwise contrast and resolution is very very good, contrast in the center is better than the 7lens-version. My understanding is that with modern optical computation it is easier to design a lens which covers barely the format, in order to improve performance in the center where it counts. The older designs often spread the limit a little bit above the film format in order to gain an even perfomance. Indeed all the older lens designs (CB60, CFi100) for Hasselblad had some shift capacity on the FLEXBODY where the newer designs (CFi40, CB80, CFi180) doesn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james_symington1 Posted October 10, 2006 Share Posted October 10, 2006 My 501CM kit came with the 80mm CFE when I bought it 3 years ago. Maybe that's just a UK thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stefan heymann Posted October 10, 2006 Share Posted October 10, 2006 When the 501CM came out in 1997, it came with the "C-Planar" from the 501C. After that, it came with the CB-Planar, which indeed has one lens element less than the CF/CFE/C-Planar versions. When the CB lens line was discontinued, the 501CM came with the CFE-Planar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William Kahn Posted October 10, 2006 Share Posted October 10, 2006 James, apparently it's a US thing, too. I bought mine new in '03 with the 80mm CFE lens..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stefan heymann Posted October 10, 2006 Share Posted October 10, 2006 It's neither UK, nor US, nor any other country. Since about 2001, the 501CM kit comes with a CFE lens because the CB lens line had been discontinued. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tariq_gibran Posted October 10, 2006 Share Posted October 10, 2006 The CB series and the 80mm CB itself was released for the single reason of being an inexpensive alternatative to entice people into the Hasselblad system by selling at a "favourable price level" as has been said here many times. The 80mm CB was in no way an improvement optically to the 7 element C, CF or CFE version otherwise that design would have been offered in the latest, more expensive CFE version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tariq_gibran Posted October 10, 2006 Share Posted October 10, 2006 http://www.photo.net/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=000Boh&tag= Info on CB line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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