tommy_baker Posted October 12, 2006 Share Posted October 12, 2006 Retail prices are coming in at 2900 & 920 UKP respectiviely (including VAT). Anyone know any UK deals running deals on these either separately or as a kit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommy_baker Posted October 12, 2006 Author Share Posted October 12, 2006 sorry for the typo, i meant M8 not M* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark_norton2 Posted October 12, 2006 Share Posted October 12, 2006 Well if you know where to get it in the UK at ?2900, spill the beans! Every dealer I know is selling it at ?2990. ?920 is the standard price for the 28mm Elmarit ASPH. This camera is likely to be in short supply/much in demand, so discounts will be hard to come by. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuart_richardson Posted October 12, 2006 Share Posted October 12, 2006 I don't know about the UK, but the US has a manufacturers SET price, not a suggested retail, so if you buy a new Leica in the USA from an authorized dealer, the price will be the same everywhere. Have you checked to see that it is not the same way in the UK? I know that Robert White is offering it for 2544, but that is probably not including VAT. http:// www.robertwhite.co.uk/ <P>Another option is to buy it grey market (if you can) via someone who sells gear from Hong Kong...Tony Rose is a good source for this sort of thing (popflash photo). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
35mmdelux Posted October 12, 2006 Share Posted October 12, 2006 Sounds like a steal.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommy_baker Posted October 12, 2006 Author Share Posted October 12, 2006 sorry, i meant 2990! i think i'm dyslexic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oceanphysics Posted October 12, 2006 Share Posted October 12, 2006 Actually in the U.S. it's suggested, not set. We do have price-fixing laws that in theory apply, but there are enough grey areas and loopholes that manufacturers usually get away with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john_shriver Posted October 12, 2006 Share Posted October 12, 2006 It's been decades since manufacturers could SET retail prices in the United States. Antitrust laws. The manufacturers argued that price fixing protected little dealers from predatory big dealers undercutting them. The Charles Beseler Company threw a conniption fit when this change happened, I think the early 1970's. I have some dealer letters from them about that for the Topcon cameras, which were price-fixed until that happened. (So were their enlargers, of course.) After that, I think they kept prices up by requiring dealers to have a very extensive inventory of the product line, meaning that they had a lot of money tied up in accessories that didn't sell well (bellows, etc.), and they couldn't afford to discount much. Manufacturers do set "minimum advertised prices" in the US. But all that means is that you don't get "cooperative marketing dollars" if you advertise a lower price. That means that they don't help you pay for your advertising, which includes (of course) their brand name. Amazon.com sells below the MAP's on a lot of products, that's why you need an extra click to see the price. But since Amazon does minimal advertising, they really don't care about cooperative marketing dollars anyways, but I think they still get them by this artifice. But this is why things like Epson printers and scanners are advertised at the same price everywhere. The MAP price stuff is somewhat fishy, and certainly skirts the intents of the antitrust laws, but the current US administration is "pro-business" and "laissez-faire", and looks the other way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elmarfudd Posted October 12, 2006 Share Posted October 12, 2006 Leica makes their dealers comply, and generally does not offer advertising coop. If you think this is incorrect, check B and H and every other dealer, and you'll see there prices are all the same. It is for this reason that B and H charges $1 more fo C-Lux cameras with a kit than without the kit. Leica has some of the strictest requirements in the industry, and those who sell cameras are greatful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuart_richardson Posted October 12, 2006 Share Posted October 12, 2006 As James said, ask any authorized Leica dealer in the US, and if you are buying a camera with a USA warranty, officially delivered through Leica USA, then the price will be the same and the dealers cannot change it. There are many dealers who would like to change it, but they cannot if they want to remain authorized dealers. They have gone so far as to require that NEW cameras from outside the US have to be described as "used" even though they have never been opened. That is why several dealers have cameras and lenses listed as "used like new" for much less than the USA warranty versions. They are not used at all, just bought in Hong Kong and then imported into the US outside of official Leica USA channels. So while the Manufacturer's Set Price might be illegal, it is the reality. At least for Leica... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leon chang Posted October 12, 2006 Share Posted October 12, 2006 "Tony Rose is a good source for this sort of thing (popflash photo)". Also Poon from HK Supplies (on e-Bay) www.hksupplies.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keirst Posted October 12, 2006 Share Posted October 12, 2006 <a href="http://www.robertwhite.co.uk/leica.htm#Label02">Robert White</a> is selling for 782.00 British Pounds. <a href="http://www.popflash.com/list.cfm?PageNum_list=3&brandid=4&categoryid=2&classid=All">Popflash</a> is selling for US $1,495.00. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keirst Posted October 12, 2006 Share Posted October 12, 2006 Oops. The prices I quoted are for the 28mm/2.8 ASPH lens only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparkie Posted October 12, 2006 Share Posted October 12, 2006 Re: robertwhite vs popflash prices for the 28/2.8.. could it be that UK prices are actually slightly cheaper for a change! ie. at an X-change rate of 1UKP to the US$ 1.85(792) given from www.xe.com/ucc. that means the UK price is cheaper by around 22 UKP ex VAT. and I think the US price for the M8 is around $4795 which is around 2580.84 UKP means the UK price of 2544 UKP ex VAT is cheaper by 36.84, all up is cheaper by approx 58.84 UKP... almost the price of a leica filter. but obviously if you are importing it with duty and shipping it doesn't mean much unless you were on a holiday to the US and got it grey and had it shipped out to a friends out of state, then maybe worth the while to save sum cash.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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