ka_ho_wong Posted November 27, 2004 Share Posted November 27, 2004 I don't understand why Leica engineered it this way. Whenever I let go the advance lever after winding. The lever bangs right into the corner of the accessory shoe. It feels like I am going to break something in the future. Do your MP or any M with the old level does the same thing? Am I going to break something if I keep forgetting to take it easy after winding? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brunom Posted November 27, 2004 Share Posted November 27, 2004 Ka-ho Yes they do! Just don't let the lever spring back by pulling your thumb away from it, but move your thumb leftwards back towards the hotshoe, which anyway, is were it needs to be if another frame is to be advanced. Good luck Regards Bruno Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aizan_sasayama Posted November 27, 2004 Share Posted November 27, 2004 bruno's got it. letting go of the lever after a wind is like slapping the keyboard or mouse button. eww! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuart_richardson Posted November 27, 2004 Share Posted November 27, 2004 After a week of owning it, that little piece where it hits will have the paint chipped off, and then you can stop worrying about it. It is not going to hurt anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommy_baker Posted November 27, 2004 Share Posted November 27, 2004 Leica designed it this was to start the brassing for you. Whether you like it or not. This is the general idea of a black paint camer with brass components. Let the brass shine through gracefully Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy m. Posted November 27, 2004 Share Posted November 27, 2004 The same happens on my Chrome M2. It doesn't seem to have caused any damage after 40 years plus :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al_kaplan1 Posted November 27, 2004 Share Posted November 27, 2004 Don't let the lever snap back by itself. I think this might be a major reason why the first M bodies were double stroke ~ your thumb HAD to follow the lever back and forth to finish winding on to the next frame. If anybody wants to get their new black paint MP dinged up and the brassing started on the way then send it to me along with $500 plus return shipping and I'll beat the hell out it for 30 days;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommy_baker Posted November 27, 2004 Share Posted November 27, 2004 I'll do it for just $250 USD and I'll have it back to you in 2 weeks. Guaranteed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul_neuthaler Posted November 27, 2004 Share Posted November 27, 2004 "KAPLAN THE KAMERA SADIST!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben z Posted November 27, 2004 Share Posted November 27, 2004 My MP advance lever hits the hot shoe whevenever my thumb slips off the tip at the end of the advance stroke. There is now a little shiny silver (yes, not brass yellow)spot on the face of the lever. It doesn't show up in any of my pictures so I don't care about it. Of more concern is losing the next shot when my thumb slips off before the camera is fully wound to the next frame and I have to give it a second flip. Perhaps that's why Leica reintroduced the Leicavit at the same time they returned to the M2-type advance lever. Slipping off the advance lever never happened to me with my previous M bodies that had the nice pivoting plastic tip. One of these days if it bothers me enough I'll order an M7 lever and switch over. Wish I could buy the parts for the rewind too, but the top plate is different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob F. Posted November 27, 2004 Share Posted November 27, 2004 On an M2 or M3, the "final resting place" for the advance lever is against the shutter speed dial. When the lever is allowed to snap home, in time the edge of the dial got dinged up with lttle dimple spots. On the MP, the final resting place was changed to the shoe, thus sparing the shutter speed dial, and giving MP owners something new to gripe about. Check your MP, and you will see clearaqnce between the lever and the dial. Check your M2 or M3, and you will see clearance between the lever and the shoe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hans_berkhout Posted November 27, 2004 Share Posted November 27, 2004 On the M3 (on mine anyway) the lever hits both the shutterspeed dial as well as the corner of the acc.shoe. I discussed this with Gerry Smith and he adjusted a retarding mechanism and this made quite a difference. Now, if I follow the lever only a little on it's return and then let go, it will stop short of hitting anything, in stops in free air. Try it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feli Posted November 27, 2004 Share Posted November 27, 2004 On the double stroke M3, I seem to remember Leica being worried about static build up from the film traveling too fast over the pressure plate, which in the early M3 was glass. Don't laugh, this used to be a problem before antistatic backings became the norm and just goes to show you how anal German engineers can be... The lever on my M2 has been banging into it's hot shoe for decades, with no problems. I wouldn't pamper it, or go out of my way to abuse it. Just use it and don't worry about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david_s4 Posted November 27, 2004 Share Posted November 27, 2004 My first Leica forum post nearly a year ago: <a href="http://www.photo.net/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=006m6L">MP Advance Lever and Flash Shoe Touch</a>. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsr Posted November 28, 2004 Share Posted November 28, 2004 The lever on my chrome MP strikes the corner of the flash shoe, like all others. So far there is no visible marking, but I'm careful to release the lever gently. Now, for those who are adventurous, it would appear that grinding approximately 1 mm off the corner of the shoe or the advance lever would eliminate the interference. :^) Best regards, Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
domino Posted November 29, 2004 Share Posted November 29, 2004 Once you have your MP falling on the pavement and scratched (like it happened to me), you don't bother anymore with these kind of trivial cosmetic problems. In a way, it's a relief :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msitaraman Posted November 29, 2004 Share Posted November 29, 2004 Once, Leica solved these minor league inelegant design problems by designing the newer M4, CL, M5, and M6. Now they are putting the defects back in; and charging you and extra $1000 or so for the privilege. ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jorge Posted November 30, 2004 Share Posted November 30, 2004 You mean something like this? <br><br> <a href="http://www.photo.net/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=009jLU"> <img src="http://www.photo.net/bboard/image?bboard_upload_id=19975484"> </a> <br><br> Click the image for the thread... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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