joseph_munro Posted January 3, 2005 Share Posted January 3, 2005 I tried researching this before I decided to post, had little luck or couldn't comprehend answers. So, I generally shoot in JPEG with my Canon 10D, recently have begun to shoot in RAW and process a little better. I still like having the images in JPEG, easier for everyone to read, but what do I do with the original RAW image. I use Canon's File Viewer Utility and it spits out the JPEG along with a .THM file. So for every JPEG I have I now have a file that is .RAW and one that is .THM. Is there any thing I can do with these, what do you do. Thanks for the help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bestactionshots Posted January 3, 2005 Share Posted January 3, 2005 I have 2 120BG disks for photos. Raw files are huge especially with 10D and 20D. I just leave them there and delete them when I'm running out of room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozone42 Posted January 3, 2005 Share Posted January 3, 2005 DVD Burner for Archival. You can fit about 350-400 on a single layer dvd (assuming 20d.) A disc runs about $0.50, but I'm kind of a digital packrat. I hate losing meaningful data. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael_beckmann Posted January 3, 2005 Share Posted January 3, 2005 Buy a DVD burner and archive those raw files on DVD! You may want to go back to those files, they include the full image information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
www.philwinterphotography. Posted January 3, 2005 Share Posted January 3, 2005 I load all the RAWs onto a CD, pop the CD into the computer and bring it up in BreezeBrowser. That way, I don't clutter the computer with a bunch of big RAWs that I won't use. BB lets me view the RAWs quickly (even though they are large), select the ones I want and convert to either jpeg or tiff. When I'm done, I back up the converted files. That's about it. Phil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wingedrabbit Posted January 3, 2005 Share Posted January 3, 2005 Wow, how to answer. I'm experimenting with manual along with different flash settings, so sometimes my shots are not exposed correctly. With RAW, I can tweek the exposure and white balance to make the shot perfect. I do this with Photoshop CS. I believe you can do the same with Elements. In other words, I make the decisions about the image processing to create a JPEG file. If you don't care about the post process, why shoot in RAW? Also, I write the RAW files to a CD so I don't have to store the image on a hard drive. Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joseph_munro Posted January 3, 2005 Author Share Posted January 3, 2005 Ahhh, so many answers. The overall theme seemed to burn them to a disc, I have both CD and DVD burner just never really thought about burning only the RAW files. So let me make sure you all have the same idea, burn the RAW files to another format, CD or DVD, and since it is me I will probably just keep the JPEGs on my computer for easier browsing until I decide to archive them. Honestly, I really do archive JPEG's to save space. Thanks all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim_larson1 Posted January 3, 2005 Share Posted January 3, 2005 Ah. . .but space is SOOOO cheap! $80 for a 160GB drive! I used to save all my RAW's to CD, but CD's just don't have enough space. I currently save all files on my HD, plus an active backup on a second, portable HD (this HD is generally kept in a secure location). When I fill up my HD (which will be sooner than I like) I will have then start saving all my RAWs on TWO (not one) portable HD's. Over the holiday I picked up a DVD burner ($60). I will now burn all the RAW's to at least two DVD's. One set will be kept in my safe deposit box with other important documents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david_jones18 Posted January 3, 2005 Share Posted January 3, 2005 Q - Are DVD's considered more reliable than CD's are is it simply the convenience of having a larger capacity disk and fewer of them to archive that is the advantage? Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael_mays Posted January 3, 2005 Share Posted January 3, 2005 The Raw file are your negs..the jpegs are your prints.. you cant do much with a print, but you can process a neg anyway want..so save them i have a 200gb external hard drive i store them all on..the .thm is just the thumbnail that loads to view the raw file dont get rid of it save it with the raw..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
micheleberti Posted January 4, 2005 Share Posted January 4, 2005 When u shot film (if u actually shot film) do you trash negs? So, do not trash your RAWs, buy an external HD drive and make an additional copy of your RAWs burning your files into DVDs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecky Posted January 4, 2005 Share Posted January 4, 2005 Usually, I use Canon's DPP software. I don't know if it support 10D now or not. It give me a very easy and quick work flow to convert multi processed RAWs into JPGs with one simple click. I use PS CS once a while if I want to edit a RAW more serious and convert it to JPG inside PS. Although I shoot with both jpg and raw together with my 1D. the jpg is only for quick upload or if I need the pictures right after i shoot. I only keep jpg processed (because not all pictures I took will be converted) from RAW and the RAW itself. Keeping them in a 160GB hard drive and a 200GB portable backup drive. DVD backup is good, just worry that I will have tons of unknown DVDs all over my work desk like my CDs now. eric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doug_landrum Posted January 5, 2005 Share Posted January 5, 2005 I'm not sure what your question is. Do you want to view the files, process the images or just save them. With Photoshop CS, the Camera Raw 2.4 beta plug in works great for fine tuning the image before you edit in Photoshop. The white balance adjustment is particularly helpful. I don't think Elements has the ability to read RAW files. My RAW files are .CR2 from the 20D, I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael_beckmann Posted January 5, 2005 Share Posted January 5, 2005 A - No, DVDs are not more reliable than CDs, but there is more space on them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theoldmoose Posted January 6, 2005 Share Posted January 6, 2005 You can solve the 'unknown CD/DVDs all over the place' by using something like Archive Creator, which keeps master indeces with thumbnails on your system, and helps you create an arbitrary volume numbering system, so you can quickly retrieve the CD/DVD of interest when you want to get at the original files. If you manage, somehow, to destroy your master index, you can re-create it by inserting all your CDs/DVDs (an admittedly laborious process, but hey, at least you *can*). Systems like this have been around since the days I used to keep track of hundreds (thousands?) of floppy discs and needed to know the contents of all of them without going through them one at a time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim_larson1 Posted January 6, 2005 Share Posted January 6, 2005 BTW: you can extend the life of DVD's/CD's by not using a marker on them. . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bestactionshots Posted January 6, 2005 Share Posted January 6, 2005 Reading advice on here with DVD and I just bought one. NEC 16X Dual Layer on Ebay for about $110 and 100 4X blanks. I like this solution better than my hard-drives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael_beckmann Posted January 7, 2005 Share Posted January 7, 2005 Best Action Shot: You bought 4x blanks, so you will burn them at 4x. That will give you good results. Don't use the max speed of your burner, because the quality of the burn will be worse, even if the blanks are specified for 8x, 12x or 16x speed. Perhaps at some point 8x speed burning may be considered, but for the time being, you are on the safe side, especially for archival purposes, with 4x speed. Jim Larson: Is that true? I hear this for the first time. I have special markers for CDs, but I don't use them for archival disks, simply as a precaution, not because of an actual recommendation I got. I only write on the cover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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