boulderjoe Posted September 30, 2004 Share Posted September 30, 2004 I'm new to Nikon, just got a FA with 35-135 from my Father in law. Andit is a blast to use. I have been using a Minolta Maxxum 5 with 50mm f1.4 and like the shotsI get. But now I see Nikon makes a 1.2... So I ask you which lens to get 501.4 or the 1.2. And if that do I goAI/AIS? What it the difference? Thanks. -Joe PS If you are interested, I want to sell my Maxxum 5 and lenses tofund more Nikon gear, I'll trade too. Contact me if you live inBoulder to check it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg_seto Posted September 30, 2004 Share Posted September 30, 2004 I'm a huge fan of the Non-AI 50mm f1.4 and the AI 50mm f2. I have heard nothing but bad reviews of the 1.2. More good things about the f1.4 and f2 are that you can buy both from KEH for under a hundred bux. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
susan_smith5 Posted September 30, 2004 Share Posted September 30, 2004 50mm f1.8 (repeat, 1.8) AI or AIS. CHEAP AND SHARP! It depends on your point of view, but you can deem there are no technical difference between AI and AIS, but there are cosmetic diffs - others with more knowledge will fill you in. Also check here --> http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/nikortek.htm#ai Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gary_woodard Posted September 30, 2004 Share Posted September 30, 2004 im with sue, what more could you want, sharper than bush on coke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbq Posted September 30, 2004 Share Posted September 30, 2004 Don't go with the super-fast ones (1.2 or 1.4), a 1.8 or even 2 will do just about as well and will likely be sharper in day-to-day shooting. Unless of course you really want to be shooting wide-open all the time. With an FA, try to get AIS lenses, they allow to use precise shutter-priority and program modes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nang Posted September 30, 2004 Share Posted September 30, 2004 Another vote for the 50/1.8. Incredibly sharp lens, and cheap as all hell. $100 or less brand new. I very rarely need an aperture larger than f/4, f/1.2 (or lower) just seems ridiculous to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebogaerts Posted September 30, 2004 Share Posted September 30, 2004 "f/1.2 (or lower) just seems ridiculous to me." It might seem ridiculous, but not only is it nice (as in completely unique images), but sometimes it's been a real help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david_kelly1 Posted October 1, 2004 Share Posted October 1, 2004 what Jean-Baptiste said: AIS lenses will allow you to make use of your FA's full capabilities; plain AI lenses will not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rustys pics Posted October 1, 2004 Share Posted October 1, 2004 I really like my 50mm 1.4 AI. I got it used for something like 40 bucks at a swap meet. There are plenty of times when 1.8 is just not enough light, and 1.4 or 1.2 is. The short depth of field of 1.4 is quite beautiful for portraits. Yeah, it's soft wide open, but that gives you a more unique bokeh palette. Stop it down to 5.6 or 8 and it's sharp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loreneidahl Posted October 1, 2004 Share Posted October 1, 2004 A 50 1.4 might seem crazy to a few unimformed posters, however it is the only lens that makes into all of my various camera bags. When I use a 50 1.4 or the 1.2 it is because I need to. Then the lense is used wide open all of the time. Its not crazy to me. I have about 6 different 50 the 1.8 is the sharpest the 2.0 has the best bokeh. the 1.4 is a tad softer than the 1.8 wide open the 1.2 is softer yet - but your not buying a 1.2 for sharpneess at this point. I used to have an FA and I loved it, eventually I wore it out. However I always used the AIS type of lense on the FA because it the FA has more capabilities with them. IE program mode, Shutter Priority, Shutter Hi, Shutter Low Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marco_p1 Posted October 1, 2004 Share Posted October 1, 2004 In my experience, I found of big help the wide aperture of my Ais 50 f1.4 when shooting indoor portraits, even if I am using a flash and a moderately closed aperture (F4 for example). It's just that focusing is so much easier, I am more confident that the photo will be more accurately focused on the eye of the subject (the closest one). The same stands for different focal lengths: I have a very nice 75-150 f3.5 E, but for indoor use i will choose my 85 f1.8 just for the ease of focus, even if I will end up shooting at f4, which both provide. Just my way... Good luck, Marco Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david_h._hartman Posted October 1, 2004 Share Posted October 1, 2004 I guess it depends on how you are buying. Ive never bought a normal lens new. When I see a nice sample at a good price I buy. I bought a couple of 50/1.8 AI(s) that way. I only have one now. The last one I paid $50.00 for. It was pretty much mint. Later I picked up a 50/1.4 AIS for $85.00 or $89.00. When I find a nice 50/2.0 AI at the right price Ill pickup one of those. <br> <br> The best bet is the 50/1.8 AI or 50/1.8 AIS (early) but thought the 50/1.4 is only 2/3 stop faster sometimes thats important. If Im not carrying flash Ill chose the 50/1.4 AIS. <br> <br> Another lens to consider is the 55/2.8 AIS. It makes a great normal and close-up lens. There will be a lot more times with a 55/2.8 that youll feel the need for speed than with a 50/1.8. If you buy a 55/2.8 then Id certainly get a 50/1.4 also.<br> <br> A lot of people recommend what they have, I guess if you buy what they use it affirms their choice. I think I need to buy that 50/2.0 AI and a 50/1.2 AIS. Then I can argue for any or all. As it is I dont recommend the 50/2.0 or 50/1.2 ;-)<br> <br> Plan to enjoy this thread. Folks tend to get touchy about their 50mm and 55mm Nikkors. The truth is none are magic. They all have their place.<br> <br> Here are a couple of links you might like to read. At the first look for "Lenses" on the left...<br> <br> <a href="http://www.naturfotograf.com" target="_new"><u>Naerfoto Bjorn Rorslett</u></a><br> <br> At this one check out Tale: 2 and 16...<br> <br> <a href="http://www.nikon.co.jp/main/eng/society/nikkor/index.htm" target="_new"><u>Nikkor -- The Thousand and One Nights</u></a><br> <br> Regards,<br> <br> Dave Hartman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian_caldwell Posted October 1, 2004 Share Posted October 1, 2004 Get the 50/1.2. Its very similar in performance to the 50/1.4 at equal apertures, and is more versatile since its faster. It also makes a logical pairing with a 50/1.8 or, better, a 55/2.8. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saikat.pathak Posted October 2, 2004 Share Posted October 2, 2004 I wonder if there is any "optical quality" diffence between 50 1.8 AIS (early) and the current 50 1.8 AIS. Hope Dave and others can throw some light. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saikat.pathak Posted October 2, 2004 Share Posted October 2, 2004 Oops...looks like I missed this post - http://www.photo.net/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=009bBe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boulderjoe Posted October 2, 2004 Author Share Posted October 2, 2004 Thanks so much for the info guys. -Joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian_caldwell Posted October 5, 2004 Share Posted October 5, 2004 "I wonder if there is any "optical quality" diffence between 50 1.8 AIS (early) and the current 50 1.8 AIS. Hope Dave and others can throw some light." The more recent AIS is useless IMO for landscape work due to its pronounced central hot spot at small apertures. I use my new version for reverse coupling and as a loupe, and not much else. Unfortunately, the optical deficiencies of the newer AIS seem to have been retained in the AF versions, altough I don't have first-hand knowledge of this. Stick with the old AI/AIS version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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