ted_jocson Posted October 31, 2004 Share Posted October 31, 2004 Hello. I have the daunting task of purchasing a new digital camera. My camera bag got ripped off at a gig. D100 w/grip, Nikon 17-35, Tameron 28-105, SBX80, batteries, etc? Not a bad haul for the thief. Watch your stuff guys. Anyways, I was looking into these three sets. D2H, D1X or the Finepix S-3? Does anyone know how much is the new D2X? I would appreciate your thoughts and opinions. Thank you in advance. Ted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeff_lu Posted October 31, 2004 Share Posted October 31, 2004 sorry to hear about the theft. i'm guessing the d2x will be somewhere around 4500 what will you be using the camera for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k_michael Posted October 31, 2004 Share Posted October 31, 2004 From what I understand, the new D2X is blazing fast. I currently own the Fuji S2. I'd be weary of another Fuji SLR becasue I have a reoccuring problem with the Firewire Port. A salesman in NYC told me that the Nikon D1X and the D1H's are all solid cameras. Very few comebacks compared to Canon, Fuji, etc. Next time around, I think I'm going that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edward_h Posted October 31, 2004 Share Posted October 31, 2004 The D2H and D1X are 4mp cameras, so I wouldn't be looking at them too much. Sure, 4mp might be enough for some jobs but 6mp is really the MINIMUM nowadays. The S3 is a nonexistent camera and I don't much like the price tag on it (what, 3000$ for a 6mp camera?). The portrait grip on it is broken (doesn't have any controls other than the shutter) and ... well... it's almost 2005 and they're still using 6mp. If I were you I'd be looking at the D2X. The only bad thing I can come up with regarding the d2x is probably the noise levels. Cramming in 12mp on a 1.5x sensor is probably not going to be the cleanest sensor in the world. Oh yeah, the other problem with the d2x is that you'll have to wait until next year for it, just like people had to wait half a year (or was it more?) for the d2h. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter_foiles2 Posted October 31, 2004 Share Posted October 31, 2004 The price on the S3 will be $2500 when it is released in a few weeks. $4500 for a D2X is a reasonable guess but if you don't already have one on order you may be too late to get one of the first shipments in January (assuming Nikon doesn't slip which has happened in the past). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Ingold Posted October 31, 2004 Share Posted October 31, 2004 The D1x is a 5.5 MP camera, not 4 MP as cited above. I get 11x14 prints that are nearly indistinguishable from my Hasselblad, at that size. If you can find a used one that hasn't been beat up, it will be serviceable for years to come. Actually, for every D1x used by a pro, there are probably 2 "boutique" cameras traded by dilitants who have to have the latest. Good hunting! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edward_h Posted October 31, 2004 Share Posted October 31, 2004 > The D1x is a 5.5 MP camera, not 4 MP as cited above. I've already explained this D1X interpolation mathematics before, but I can't find the thread so I'll run it again. The D1X has a native sensor size of 4028 x 1324. The output jpg is 3008 x 1960. It interpolated DOWN from 4028 to 3008 and UP from 1324 to 1960. Taking the minimum of both axes you get 3008 x 1324 = 3.9million ~ 4mp. Or does your math differ from mine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilkka_nissila Posted October 31, 2004 Share Posted October 31, 2004 Edward H, the D1X has two options: 5.3 MP and 10 MP, depending on which interpolation you select. The 5.3 MP was the only option on the built-in firmware that came with the first D1X units, but since the camera first came out Bjorn Rorslett has used third-party software to get the full data from the sensor. With current D1X models, the firmware allows the full data to be retrieved also. If you don't use this option, that's just your problem but it doesn't make the camera a 4 MP camera. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olivier_reichenbach Posted October 31, 2004 Share Posted October 31, 2004 What Ilkka says. You can get 10 interpolated MP when shooting Raw (Nef) and converting in Nikon Capture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edward_h Posted October 31, 2004 Share Posted October 31, 2004 Interpolation isn't real resolution. You can't get more detail out of a 4mp image through interpolation. Is the 1mp Olympus a 6mp camera, or does interpolation somehow not count in this case? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgpinc Posted October 31, 2004 Share Posted October 31, 2004 Get one or two D-70 bodies and spend the difference on lenses and a good strobe. Ought to do everything you need with quality and style. May the bugger(s) who stole it have a very bad year. Good luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilkka_nissila Posted November 1, 2004 Share Posted November 1, 2004 Edward, the D1X sensor has 5.3 million effective pixels (that is photosensitive sites excluding the border area). All of this information is included in the 10 MP interpolated image. The image is <i>not</i> first reduced to 4 MP and then interpolated to 10 MP - that would be absurd. The original D1X produced files which were resized to 5 MP files with square pixels. This was to keep the file size reasonable, but some of the horizontal resolution was lost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nathan_cox Posted November 2, 2004 Share Posted November 2, 2004 This raises a question in my mind. Since the D1x only exterpolates along one axis to reach 10mp, which would produce the better print (say 11x14 or larger) the D1x extrapolated to 10mp or a d70? Has anyone compared the two? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilkka_nissila Posted November 3, 2004 Share Posted November 3, 2004 The D1X does not extrapolate (guess values outside the area where measurements are made) - it's called <i>interpolation</i> when values between measurements are estimated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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