ray . Posted October 27, 2004 Share Posted October 27, 2004 To what extent do you think your wife, husband, girlfriend, loved one, sister, brother, mother, father (in general- family)....... appreciates your photography or photography in general, or visual art? How important to you is it that they do or don't? For me I have an ex-girlfriend who probably appreciates and understands it most. Those close to me now to a lesser degree. I gauge it on how much actual discussion and specific understanding is expressed. I just started dating someone who I think has limited interest in it..... she's also voting for the other guy in the election next week. What am I thinking? Well, apparently, photography and politics aren't everything in life after all... though future education is always an option... How does it play out in your life? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joshroot Posted October 27, 2004 Share Posted October 27, 2004 <a href="http://www.photo.net/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=009f0x">A thread from earlier this month.</a> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
________1 Posted October 27, 2004 Share Posted October 27, 2004 Most, if not all, the people I interact with on a daily basis think it's bizarre a person would wander the streets taking photos of complete strangers. It doesn't seem like a very useful thing to be doing--no money in it either. When I tell them it's an "art" thing, they respond with "oh" and change the subject. While I do like getting positive feedback, art making is such a lonesome pursuit anyhow, I don't really care what people think about it. I aspire to something, that's all that matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeff_lu Posted October 27, 2004 Share Posted October 27, 2004 of my family, only my mother appreciates one art (music)...literature and visual art don't appeal, especially the "revolutionary" works...it's a problem but i'm coming to terms with it <p> with my significant others, it's really important...it's a rather large part of me <P> politics - you think that's difficult? try dating when your choice is beyond the other <i>guys</i> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray . Posted October 27, 2004 Author Share Posted October 27, 2004 Missed that other thread, sorry... ah well, maybe this can be an extension of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grant_. Posted October 27, 2004 Share Posted October 27, 2004 yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terry_rory Posted October 27, 2004 Share Posted October 27, 2004 Partner is a writer and spends a lot of her time writing about 'things that are not really true' because that is her creative 'bent' and enjoyment. I get that and she gets what I do. She would not "get it" if I just collected cameras as things but she appreciates the images and gives valuable advice on colour and composition. (With her more artistic eye which is more subtle than mine for colours and form.) She is the one who says that good photography is an art whereas I am the one who maintains it is at best a craft. She probably "gets it" MORE than I do! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard_zevnik Posted October 27, 2004 Share Posted October 27, 2004 Yes, but most people don't, and that applies equally to participation in choral music, or playing an instrument ( or maybe several), or writing, of so many other things. My impression is that, at least in the US, we largely have become a society of passive consumers, and have forgotten, if ever we learned, what's it's like to be passionately involved in such activities. How many people will be planted on their rear ends watching the World Series (if it lasts that long) or the NFL this coming Sunday afternoon? Three weeks ago, there were a couple hundred empty seats for the performance by a community chorale I sing in of Rutter's Requiem and Dvorak's Mass in D. Last December, about 50 people attended my church choir's Advent performance of JS Bach's Cantata 141, leaving some 175 seats empty. And those in attendance were mostly those who have only learned the joy of listening without learning the joy of singing. Don't be discouraged. With time, we have a way of finding kindred souls, and with luck, can show the way to someone else who might not have had the inclination to take up photography, or music, or [fill in the blank] . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joshroot Posted October 27, 2004 Share Posted October 27, 2004 I think photo.net has long ago given up on trying to keep from repeting threads. I was just trying to bring that one up since it was so recent. I thought it could be a starting point for this thread if there was more to say about the subject. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shambrick007 Posted October 27, 2004 Share Posted October 27, 2004 If she is, she ain't getting it from me! ;-) <p> But to the point, yeah, I think she does get it a little bit. Maybe she would get it more if I actually made a print every now and then! I'm sure she gets that I'm a gear-head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m_. Posted October 27, 2004 Share Posted October 27, 2004 ray: if your girlfriend doesn't understand your most passionate hobby (assume so), votes for the idiot (assuming i know a little about your politics), and possibly (and most likely) the gap will widen sooner than you think, why the heck are you still hanging in there? for what? once in a long while she posts for a butt shot for you? ops...people on the other camp don't even think that's moral to shoot butts so she probably won't even do that for you. :-) to me, it is the most important. i do not make any living out of doing photography but yes, opinions from loved ones, friends and families regardign my photography are important. don't hang around with a wrong gang. find yourself someone better. all the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edmo Posted October 27, 2004 Share Posted October 27, 2004 Ray, my wife is a Yankee's fan...sometimes you just learn too accept people despite their shortcomings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark_ng Posted October 27, 2004 Share Posted October 27, 2004 To me, it doesnt matter all that much. I'm happy enough that my girlfriend will spend the time to check out the stuff I'm interested in. I cant expect her to be as passionate as I am about certain things. In addition, its always good to have hobbies that are separate as a time out from each other. If anyone picks or rejects a mate because of political orientation...thats pretty sad man...Maybe I'm Canadian and it dont matter as much (??) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raymond_wilson Posted October 27, 2004 Share Posted October 27, 2004 When I stop and think about the hobby, I don't even 'get it'... Ray Wilson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsr Posted October 27, 2004 Share Posted October 27, 2004 I must echo what Sheldon is saying. She hasn't beem "getting it" from me, so if she's "getting it", "it" is somewhere else! Seriously, Ray if you're passionate about something like Photography, Art, Bicycling or Fly Fishing (all my vices), don't try pursuing a relationship with anyone who doesn't give a damn about any of it. These are all mainly solitary pursuits but others who share your interests will eventually be drawn to you based on the common interests you share. This will only happen if you are not dragging around the excess baggage of a disinterested party! Nothing's guaranteed, but optimize yor chances. Life's too short to settle for bum sex. Best regards, Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray . Posted October 27, 2004 Author Share Posted October 27, 2004 Ed, when we were out to dinner, the night the score was 19-8, she said "The Yankees, that's baseball." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
________1 Posted October 27, 2004 Share Posted October 27, 2004 "Life's too short to settle for bum sex." Now, now Bill. Whatever turns Ray's crank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eliot_rosen Posted October 27, 2004 Share Posted October 27, 2004 The girl you're dating sounds pretty good to me (if I understand your politics :-)), most people on this site could use exposure to a different point of view. As far as photography, I personally am not good enough to make a living from it or to consider it my art, but I don't think its necessary to have her share your passion, not everyone is motivated for that in the same way. It is good to share a few interests in common though, consider the whole picture, so to speak. :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray . Posted October 27, 2004 Author Share Posted October 27, 2004 Way way wait a minute here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray . Posted October 27, 2004 Author Share Posted October 27, 2004 This isn't an "advice to Ray" thread... ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsr Posted October 27, 2004 Share Posted October 27, 2004 Ray, I'm sorry how this is turning out for you, but you turned the corner when you indicated that the one who appreciates "it" the most is your ex, while your current "squeeze" has limited understanding of "it" and is also politically opposed to you. You're clearly conflicted and in need if help! What can we do but extend a helping hand to a comrade in arms? Best regards, Bill :^) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cebes_johnson Posted October 27, 2004 Share Posted October 27, 2004 Yes, she is the one who has taught and instructed me (an arrogant painter) what photography is about. I now shoot more than she, yet not quite as successful. But I am working on it... Carry it with me along with my sketchbook. Cannot have one without the other.. best wishes C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doug herr Posted October 27, 2004 Share Posted October 27, 2004 Not sure what this means but my 16-yr-old daughter knows my <A HREF="http://www.wildlightphoto.com" target="_blank">website URL</A> and my wife doesn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randy_skopar Posted October 27, 2004 Share Posted October 27, 2004 <<Partner is a writer and spends a lot of her time writing about 'things that are not really true'>>��Trevor, she would be a perfect writer for CBS News. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
douglas k. Posted October 27, 2004 Share Posted October 27, 2004 ...Or for the Bush administration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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