boschetto Posted October 16, 2004 Share Posted October 16, 2004 I've read good things about 75-150 E, so i've decided to buy one. I know there are two versions: the earlier version has a lens fastening ring in black plastic while later version has a metal lens mounting ring. I've found a lot of informations about this nice zoom, but nothing that concerns the differences between the two versions. It's only an aestetical difference or the latest is better? Thanks and sorry for my so so english. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vivek iyer Posted October 16, 2004 Share Posted October 16, 2004 "the earlier version has a lens fastening ring in black plastic while later version has a metal lens mounting ring." Nicola, I have no idea about what you are referring to. I own two samples. One with a prong for the older F bodies and the other without it. Both are AIS lenses and both are metal. No plastic whatsoever. It is a terrific lens. Vivek. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark_peters Posted October 16, 2004 Share Posted October 16, 2004 You are correct that there are two versions of this lens. The earlier one has a black plastic mounting ring while the later ones have a chrome ring that is more similar to a traditional Nikkor lens. The two verisons share a common optical formula. All else being equal, I'd opt for the latter chrome ring version. But I would not pay much more for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwcombs Posted October 16, 2004 Share Posted October 16, 2004 There is a great resource of information on this and other E-Series lenses at: <P> <A HREF="http://mir.com.my/rb/photography/hardwares/classics/emfgfg20/eserieslenses/htmls/36150mm.htm#75150mm"> http://mir.com.my/rb/photography/hardwares/classics/emfgfg20/eserieslenses/htmls/36150mm.htm#75150mm</A> <P> And, that is a wonderful lens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
albert_smith Posted October 16, 2004 Share Posted October 16, 2004 <I>...two samples. One with a prong for the older F bodies and the other without it.</I><P> If you have a series E 75-150mm f/3.5 zoom with a prong, it was modified after purchase. All series E lenses came without the prong, and were intially seen as a low cost alternative to true Nikkors for use with the new EM and FG class consumer bodies.<P> There were two 75-150mm designs, the initial economical typical series E style, and later modified with a more traditional Nikon look by adding a chrome ring for mounting and removing the lens. In at least one book I have, <B>Moose Peterson's Nikon System Handbook</B>, he states that the first version was not as mechanically strong as the last version with the ring, although I can't say if that is a known thruth or just an assumption.<P> I have a 20 year old 75-150mm zoom that I bought new for about 100 Dollars. It is the chrome ring version, and it is mechanically fine to this day. The focus and aperture actions are smooth and precise, while the zoom action is loose, a common thing, but not a show stopper. The images that this lens still produces to this day makes it one of the best 100 Dollars I have ever spent in photography. I could not say that the first version would be any less operational after all of these years, but my lens feels and performs just like a Nikkor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vivek iyer Posted October 16, 2004 Share Posted October 16, 2004 Alright, I have both of them: #180774 and #3001022. The earlier numbered sample is the one without the prong. Black aperture indicator ring (with the dot to indicate the aperture) which is fixed. The later one has a chrome ring with the dot to indicate the aperture. On both the lenses: the movable aperture ring (with all the numbers) is plastic. The rear group of elements are housed in a plastic barrel. The zoom and the overall lens barrel are metal. Mount is metal. Optically, both are the same. I matrix chipped one of them so, i had to take them apart to to do this. Yes, the zoom, focus is quite loose but does not creep. Both perform equally good. Mechanically there is NO difference at all. The prong appears to be a factory job. If it had been done later, I can not tell. Vivek. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gv Posted October 16, 2004 Share Posted October 16, 2004 I bought a used mint condition 75-150 for $215 around 12 years ago and I thought I got a very good deal, although the price at the time was at the top of the range for the lens. The lens is so good I eventually sold my little-used 105 2.5 lens. The 75-150 is small, light, very sharp and is only marginally slower than an 80-200 2.8, which is relatively big and heavy. I rarely use my 80-200 because of its size. A standard Nikon 52mm filter size makes the 75-150 a nice companion to most other manual focus Nikon lenses with identical filter sizes. I would go with the metal ring version of the 75-150, and don't forget to buy an HN-21 lens hood! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boschetto Posted October 16, 2004 Author Share Posted October 16, 2004 Vivek, i think Albert is right. I've never seen a 75-150 E with a prong, probably it's a modified one. However you all confirm the very good reputation of this gem. I've found two samples in some advertisements: one with a black plastic ring at 120 euro and the other with a metal ring at 150 euro (!). Either in very good conditions (at least by the photos i've received). I don't know...I like the aluminium ring version better with its nikkor look but, in this case, i think it's a little dear. Moreover, the black ring version's seller will comes in my town next week so i'll can check for it. This moment i think to buy the black ring one If in really good conditions (hope to make the right choice). Regards, Nicola Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vivek iyer Posted October 17, 2004 Share Posted October 17, 2004 Nicola, The thing to look for would be scratches and dust. There is always some dust that gets in to the front group of elements because of the zoom construction. Will not bother any images. But pricewise, a factor. The rear mount, filter threads should look "new". If otherwise, bring down well below 100 euros. These lenses are really worth a lot more based on their sharpness and construction compared to some of modern Nikon lenses. Good luck and enjoy! Vivek. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boschetto Posted October 17, 2004 Author Share Posted October 17, 2004 Vivek, thank you. I'll check for scracthes and dust too. It seems to be a good one as you can see below, this is from the seller. I hope it's a sample without too much zoom creep problem! Have you never seen any differences in flare and ghost between black ring and aluminiun ring model? G.V., here you can find a discussion about the best lens hood for 75-150 E: http://www.photo.net/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=0078n K Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vivek iyer Posted October 17, 2004 Share Posted October 17, 2004 Nicola, The sample looks perfect, cosmetically. The two versions are IDENTICAL in their performance. I use a K4 ring as the lens hood for my lens(es). Works well and I find it more compact than the HK hood. Vivek. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msitaraman Posted October 20, 2004 Share Posted October 20, 2004 Nicola, It is only a cosmetic difference. The lens elements are the same. After the few posts here in the last few weeks about the lens, I dug out my sample of the lens, stuck it on, just now, to my D100. I ignored the "F--" error message, adjusted manual exposure, and shot the following, using the manual focus indicator in the D100, at 150mm, and minimum focusing distance. Here is the whole shot, reduced. And the next post will be of a section, actual pixels on your screen... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msitaraman Posted October 20, 2004 Share Posted October 20, 2004 Whoops, too big. Here goes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msitaraman Posted October 20, 2004 Share Posted October 20, 2004 Anyway, here is the actual section... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msitaraman Posted October 20, 2004 Share Posted October 20, 2004 You can clearly see the halftone dots on the box of Reala. Not that this proves anything, but it sure is a nice lens. And I'm sure glad I kept it these last 18 years... I've thrown some brickbats at Nikon today...This one is a bouquet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boschetto Posted October 22, 2004 Author Share Posted October 22, 2004 Nph and Reala, two of my favorit color films! Did you ever used NPZ 800? I would give it a chance. The shot looks very sharp on my monitor and have nice out of focus areas. You should have your 75-150 chipped for an easy to use on D100 ;-)! I'm looking forward to get mine, next week. Thank you Mani, Nicola Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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