mister_quinn Posted October 23, 2004 Share Posted October 23, 2004 I have a Tessar lens for my 4x5 and would like to set up a filter and hood system. I've seen cokin a and p. These would require 8mm step up rings. There is also just buying 40.5 filters and using a rubber hood. Which do you guys suggest? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pvp Posted October 23, 2004 Share Posted October 23, 2004 I wouldn't consider the Cokin A system; it isn't large enough to allow for movements (IMO.) I use Cokin P filters on my 4x5 and haven't had any problems. I've also used (and continue to use) a rubber hood on occasion, but most of the time I just use the dark slide to shade the lens if the sun is on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mister_quinn Posted October 23, 2004 Author Share Posted October 23, 2004 What about the cokin p modular hoods? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinny_walsh Posted October 23, 2004 Share Posted October 23, 2004 The cokin snap on hoods are stackable but aren't made for any particular lens so you may cover too much or not enough area and there still isn't anything in between the hood and the filter so flare can still be an issue. I use what's called a french flag instead. Its a small sheet of matte plastic attached to a flexible arm that can be clamped to the camera. You simply cast a shadow on the lens with it and then check under the cloth to make sure it's out of frame. This is more precise and keeps additional accessories off the lens. flarebuster.com sells something similar to my homeade version but without clamp. the 1/4" mount they provide can be bolted onto a 1" "pony" clamp or A clamp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
louie_powell1 Posted October 24, 2004 Share Posted October 24, 2004 Vinny has a great suggestion. It is possible to purchase a "double clamp" - looks like two rather hefty office binder clips that are joined together with a piece of wire - the binder clips swivel on the wire, such that it's possible to orient them in an almost infinite number of ways. Use one clip to attach to the camera, and the other attaches to the "french flag". The flag itself can be cardboard (another use for the gray card in your camera bag), or in my case, I use a piece of dark gray foam about 3/8" thick. The foam came as packing material with some computer equipment - its flexible, and yet rigid enough to not be very "floppy". When it's not being used to shield the lens, it stays in the bag as protection for the ground glass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kinesisphotogear Posted October 24, 2004 Share Posted October 24, 2004 I use the Xenophon 3 inch Gel Holder with Spring available from Calumet. gelatin filters are rear mounted (less flare) instead in the front. It works with all my glass from 90mm to 300mm except my 47mm. The short focal distance from this lens tends to pick up or "see" the slightest amount of dirt or dust on the filter. For the front (grads or polarizers) I use the Lee/Calumet 4x5" slide in filter system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marty howie Posted October 24, 2004 Share Posted October 24, 2004 Hi, perhaps this will be helpful http://www.minoltausa.com/cokin/pro/index.htm I've only seen one and I'm quite interested in buying one myself as it appears to be a "flexible" and "hardy" system {x-pro} and is far superior to the cokin A & P models. I hope it helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mister_quinn Posted October 24, 2004 Author Share Posted October 24, 2004 X-pro eh? the filter on my LF tessar is only 49mm so I'd have to buy a huge step up ring for that. Would it be worth it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie_goodwin Posted October 25, 2004 Share Posted October 25, 2004 The Lee system (www.leefiltersusa.com) with filters, filter holders, adaptors and regular and wide angle hoods is a great system. Their regular hood will shade everything from sorta wide to sorta long extremely well, is self supporting and is just plain handy to work with. They have a wide angle hood too. I haven't purchased it since the regular hood works so well for me. Check out Calumet ( www.calumetphoto.com ) and B&H (www.bhphotovideo.com) and Teamwork (www.teamworkphoto.co.uk)for Lee Hoods and filters. I believe you will need a 40.5 to 49 step up to connect to what I think is the smallest adaptor they have, 49mm, but small step ups are practically free. Other systems are probably cheaper, but the Lee hoods are so user friendly that I use them more often than I would a clumsier system. I would buy the Lee hood system again in a second. Best, C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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