film rules Posted September 21, 2004 Share Posted September 21, 2004 Has anyone noticed that the "photos" of the new Zeiss rangefinder really look like computer generated images? It looks to me like many of the parts are adopted from other cameras. Examples are the bayonet lock button and back door hinge from Cosina and the strap lugs from Leica. Overall, it looks to me like a digital mock-up - not an actual prototype. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
art_kramer Posted September 21, 2004 Share Posted September 21, 2004 whats a "rangefinder camera"? sounds like an expensive new SUV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shambrick007 Posted September 21, 2004 Share Posted September 21, 2004 Yes I have. The body looks like a 3D rendering, but the lens looks like an actual photo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbutterworth Posted September 21, 2004 Share Posted September 21, 2004 I think you are right - the angle that this strap lug attaches to the body looks a little odd to me.<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Posted September 21, 2004 Share Posted September 21, 2004 I haven't heard of this camera. Can you provide a link? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike_elek Posted September 21, 2004 Share Posted September 21, 2004 Look at the edge of the leather. This looks more like it's from an early sample, given the rather imprecise cut of the leather and how it's doesn't reach the top and seems to be lifting just behind the strap lug. I doubt you would CG that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott_mcloughlin Posted September 21, 2004 Share Posted September 21, 2004 Any consensus on what this mockup might be? With the 2:1 ratio pics, I'd almost speculate that it's an APS film format M-mount rangefinder, but that would be just too freakish, perverse and bizarre :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
art_kramer Posted September 21, 2004 Share Posted September 21, 2004 seriously, whats a rangefinder??? they don't call all cameras rangefinders. i realize most of you people dream of this stuff all day long, i don't. why do they call it that? is a rangefinder an SLR? point and shoot? does the lense come off? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike_elek Posted September 21, 2004 Share Posted September 21, 2004 Carl Zeiss (the company, not the person) has been releasing little tidbits of information for the past couple of weeks -- just teasers really -- about something new.<P> <a href=http://www.photo.net/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=009VlB>See the previous discussion.</a><p> The Zeiss site had a picture of the camera, which somebody found. But it appears that it's been deleted from their site.<P> It appears to be a Zeiss-Ikon rangefinder, but there's ongoing speculation whether it's film, digital or both. It also appears to be based on a Cosina body, but with some major design changes.<P> Zeiss promises to raise the curtain on Sept. 28 at photokina. It will be interested if the "mainstream" photography press takes notice, given the focus on digital. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bart feliciano Posted September 21, 2004 Share Posted September 21, 2004 Art, I'm going to take your question at face value http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rangefinder_camera Here's a good definition of a rangefinder camera. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete1 Posted September 21, 2004 Share Posted September 21, 2004 Maybe the new Zeiss rangefinder is all just a hoax. Perhaps we should ask that idiot Dan Rather at CBS news if he had anything to do with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike_elek Posted September 21, 2004 Share Posted September 21, 2004 Dan would answer, but he's busy modifying his typewriter at the moment -- solding together "t" and "h" or something like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
__jon__ Posted September 21, 2004 Share Posted September 21, 2004 >Pete , sep 21, 2004; 11:27 p.m. >Maybe the new Zeiss rangefinder is all just a hoax. Perhaps we should ask that idiot Dan Rather at CBS news if he had anything to do with it. Yeah, or we should ask Duh-b-ya about the WMD... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jean_. Posted September 22, 2004 Share Posted September 22, 2004 Folks, zeiss is a <i>very</i> serious and even more conservative stone-age old german company, the hoax theory does not suit their entire corporate image and tradition. As for the mockup, it is common to make mockups long before the actual product is finished for photographing, and many times the mockup photos stay in use.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kai_teufel Posted September 22, 2004 Share Posted September 22, 2004 Zeiss didnt built Cameras for a long time now. They only built lenses. They wont be able to develope a new CAMERA; perhaps its an cooperation with rollei, contax or so (where is the original info?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank_reidelbach Posted September 22, 2004 Share Posted September 22, 2004 The linked pictures looks like this camera was created in Photoshop. None of the links was genuine Zeiss. So probably all discussion was about a hoax Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
socke Posted September 22, 2004 Share Posted September 22, 2004 Trollfest? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill_marshall1 Posted September 22, 2004 Share Posted September 22, 2004 None of the links were genuine Zeiss? It was taken from the Zeiss website. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stefano_giannuzzi Posted September 22, 2004 Share Posted September 22, 2004 total picture... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike_elek Posted September 22, 2004 Share Posted September 22, 2004 Carl Zeiss NEVER built cameras with the exception of the Werra. And that was East German Carl Zeiss Jena. Carl Zeiss only makes lenses, binoculars, optical equipment, etc., but never cameras. Zeiss-Ikon built cameras, and it closed in the early 1970s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gerry_szarek Posted September 22, 2004 Share Posted September 22, 2004 It looks like my Hexar RF, the big question is it digital or film? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
victor4 Posted September 22, 2004 Share Posted September 22, 2004 I could be wrong but didn't the first one or two quips shown with the photos on the Zeiss site question what lens was used to take this photo? Also the current view on their site says ...new innovation that you would never have expected... I am beginning to think there may be no camera body involved. It sounds like a lens. Looking at the current 3 photos shown today one could start to wonder. A perspective control lens... or a 'fits any camera' lens... On the other hand an unexpected innovation...a film/digital back...or a new medium format rangefinder? (oh, how I wish) Regardless of the outcome I think it is totally cool for a starched shirt company like Zeiss to play this attention getting hype game. Just my overvalued $.02 worth, vic... :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsbc Posted September 22, 2004 Share Posted September 22, 2004 I would have thought it's just the lens system, but there were specific shots on the camera. What would be a killer system now? a M-mount digital with a 18mmX36mm sensor. The digital X-pan. This eliminates the problems with light-falloff and oblique rays at the corners when using a wide-angle, and you still get the horizontal coverage. ie a VC 15mm will still give you 15mm angle of view. The sensor would be cheaper because will be 33% smaller than a full-frame. What would be really nice would be the ability to switch from 18x36 to 18x27 on the fly. This way, you can get a 1.3x sensor, ie the same size as a Canon one. I can plug in a 28 summicron and it will be just like the regular 35 summicron! This machine will be more useful than the R-D1 with its 1.5x sensor. I like this idea more and more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
film rules Posted September 23, 2004 Author Share Posted September 23, 2004 I'd rather have a square sensor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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