steve_levine Posted October 10, 2004 Share Posted October 10, 2004 They are telling me my PO/MO hasnt arrived from 75 miles away ,after 10 days! Does NYC mail suck that bad?Or are they playing games?The retail archives here show a so, so record for this outfit.Has anyone had any similar experiences with them?Or could this be a legit "lost in the mail", issue? If anyone reports any similar activity, I'll assume this is their MO?(An idealist Im not, when it comes to NYC retail). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry_ Posted October 10, 2004 Share Posted October 10, 2004 Next time -- spring for the 70 cent mail confirmation service that delivery has been made. Like B&H, the place may be 'closed up' for the church-related holiday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
albert knapp md Posted October 10, 2004 Share Posted October 10, 2004 Probably due to the Jewish Holiday. They are very dependable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
del_gray Posted October 10, 2004 Share Posted October 10, 2004 The Post Office can also tell you if a money order has been cashed. I sent one for a purchase to a member here on PN that did not arrive after a long time, and once they saw that it had not been cashed and it was never delivered they refunded the entire amount to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elijah_free Posted October 10, 2004 Share Posted October 10, 2004 I had a similar experience with Tamarkin. I spoke at great detail with a member of their sales staff about a certian used item that I was looking for. The salesman, who sounded like he knew what he was talking about, sold me something that was not what I asked for. The item took two weeks to arrive from NY to California. I called after ten tays looking for the item. Stan the owner happened to answer the phone call. He was rude and short tempered on the phone, along with blaming the slow response in his shipping dept. to me. Finally the item did arrive. Well, it was the wrong item. I called to send it back. They told me first that my time to return something was up and I would not get a refund, even though the time was taken up by a very slow shipping dept. Finally, they argreed to take it back and give me a refund. They also agreed to refund the shipping one way, because it was their fault, and I would pay shipping for one way for the privilege of seeing a piece of their equipment, even though it was agreed it was the fault of the salesman. Finally, the refund did arrive after two more calls. However, I received a letter several weeks later informing me that I had to pay the shipping both ways and that I did not know what I wanted when I originally spoke to the salesman. I do not recomend this company at all. They have no integrity unless you are a big spender. My total only came to under four hundred dollars. The owner is also very rude IMHO. There are far better places to buy gear where they very helpful and care about the satisfaction of their customers who are only spending hundreds fo dollars and not thousands at a time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim_shields1 Posted October 10, 2004 Share Posted October 10, 2004 I have bought a camera, a couple of lenses, a projector, and some accessories from them over the years. Each transaction was made over the phone and each has gone well, including the following: about a week after my M6 arrived it jammed. I called them and worked it out. I mailed off the malfunctioning camera one day and received its replacement the next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olivier_reichenbach Posted October 10, 2004 Share Posted October 10, 2004 Stores should know by now that everybody is selling the same stuff, and that SERVICE is everything these days. It is service that separates sellers from one another. As for me, Tamarkin will now go down on my black list. And Steve, maybe you could send them an e- mail pointing them to this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vic_. Posted October 10, 2004 Share Posted October 10, 2004 Tamarkin has been a very good place for me, and I've been dealing with them since they were next to the Leica Gallery. I initially dealt with Stan Tamarkin, and then with Craig Williams. I've never had a problem. In fact they scrutinized new lenses for me until they found the most dust-free lenses. Their service is impeccable. I'm sure it is a glitch due to the Jewish Holidays and random Murphy's Law situations. Why is it that people on this forum are so quick to hang Leica Dealers? Often, based on one anedote, that somehow becomes fact. Also, a lot of the cranky buyers (and I'm not suggesting that this one is cranky) don't realize that they could be part of the problem. The whole Rich Pinto thing was over the top. He's one of the best people to deal with. So is Tamarkin. As was Ken Hansen. I've found that a lot of people on this forum want steak for the price of hamburger when it comes to Leica equipment, and whine when they don't get their way, even trying to chisel $25 off a $1,600 lens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
__hank_boneroneo1 Posted October 10, 2004 Share Posted October 10, 2004 <<SERVICE is everything these days. It is service that separates sellers from one another>> And so they close together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john_elder1 Posted October 10, 2004 Share Posted October 10, 2004 I had one very good experience with Tamarkin when buying a 35mm Leica lens. They let me exchange a 35 lux for a 4th version cron without penalty and gave me a credit on the price difference on my credit card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin m. Posted October 10, 2004 Share Posted October 10, 2004 There goes Vic sounding all 'reasonable' again. Knock it off, Vic! This forum isn't for the mentally stable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew n.bra hrefhttp Posted October 10, 2004 Share Posted October 10, 2004 I don't know, it may be a coincidence, but during what I call "The Great Rolleiflex Fiasco of 2004", I discovered there are an awful lot of dishonest and tricky dealers around lately - even those who formerly were known as "reputable". My pet theory is that a lot of them are becoming unhinged by eBay / online selling / the digital onslaught (where cameras have become commodities and can be bought from any Walmart type discounter). Amazing thing. Heres an overview of TGRF: A dealer deliberately advertising non- existent items on their website to lure people so they can try and sell more expensive stock. Another dealer "selling" me a camera and then reneging (without bothering to tell me) because he thought the agreed price was too low. Another dealer selling me a "recent CLA, Ex++ condition camera" which - according to Harry Fleenor - actually turned out to be "severe faults, requires extensive repairs". Sheesh - all in the same MONTH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly_flanigan1 Posted October 10, 2004 Share Posted October 10, 2004 How is Tamarkin responsible for a missplaced letter? They are not the United States post office. If the letter got lost in the mail; or is miss addressed; is the intended receiver always blamed? Alot of questions here. <BR><BR>Here we get "where is the item" emails from Canadians Ebay buyers; from USA mail shipments. The USPS site will state X to YY days; the letter or package is often 2 to 3X late. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnmarkpainter Posted October 10, 2004 Share Posted October 10, 2004 Another POSITIVE experience with Tamarkin. I have had nothing but great dealings with them. Sorry you are having trouble Steve, but I don't think they are 'playing games'. jmp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike dixon Posted October 10, 2004 Share Posted October 10, 2004 My experience with Tamarkin was also positive. They were helpful, courteous, and resolved a couple of minor problems very quickly. As for the the mail taking ten days to go 75 miles, when I lived in Ann Arbor, it sometimes took a week (one time it took over a month) for letters sent from within the same city. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eliot_rosen1 Posted October 10, 2004 Share Posted October 10, 2004 My experience with Tamarkin has also been good. You pay top dollar but his grading is conservative and you get what you pay for. No complaints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jati_lindsay Posted October 11, 2004 Share Posted October 11, 2004 my dealings with tamarkin (craig) were great as well. bought an m4p and the finder got fogged somehow. they offered to get it cleaned out for free..... i would recommend them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wayne gardner Posted October 11, 2004 Share Posted October 11, 2004 I bought new 90/2.8 and 35/2 ASPH, plus two subscriptions to LFI from Tamarkin. All transactions went very well. The 35/2 was out of stock (Leica Day sale), and they did not charge my credit card until they shipped the lens. When I called about an LFI special order that had not arrived by regular mail, they overnighted another that day; it arrived before the regular mail shipment! (so now I have two of that issue.) I spoke with Stan Tamarkin a few years ago, and he was very polite, answered all questions well, and was a pleasure to deal with--even though I did not buy anything at that time. I would recommend Tamarkin and Rich Pinto; they both offer excellent service, are knowledgeable and honest. Wayne Gardner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stan_tamarkin2 Posted October 11, 2004 Share Posted October 11, 2004 Normally I refrain from getting involved in a public forum because I prefer my reputation to stand or fall on its own merits. But, a few words: First, we don't "play games." Why in the world would we or anyone want to upset a potential source of revenue? Secondly, there is no reason why you shouldn't try to be an idealist. I find that people who expect the best usually get the best. Finally, I am never rude to customers, or to anyone, unless they mistreat someone in my company. We believe in human dignity--as well as service, expertise, and quality. My toll-free line is public: call me whenever you want if you require a more specific reply. Thanks, Stan Tamarkin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charles_mason Posted October 11, 2004 Share Posted October 11, 2004 My experience with Tamarkin has also always been courteous and professional. They have been kind even when I just called to ask a question that didn't lead to a purchase. I have no problem recommending them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roger_michel Posted October 11, 2004 Share Posted October 11, 2004 hi -- i have dealt with tamarkin for many years. let me say right up front that, IMO, stan tamarkin is a real SOB. there were many people in the photo industry that took great pleasure in the sequence of events that led to his departure from choice quarters next to the leica gallery (now occupied by the VERY congenial eli kurland) to his current remote backwater. i would never patronize the shop if stan were there very much. fortunately, he isn't (at least at the times when i visit). as for service, that varies a lot depending on who waits on you. they have had some really stellar people in the past. sadly, one of the best, george, has now left for boston. craig is quite good, always reliable and always fair. tamarkin has lots of things going for it, including good stock, their interesting auctions, location in NYC, and knowledgable staff. stan is the biggest negative. my guess is that he was personally responsible for the absurd follow-up letter you got demanding you pay two-way shipping. but who knows. with places like newtonville camera, photo village, and even b&h (which has never given me a runaround on ANY return), why bother with a place that generates such bad press. bottom line -- stan, who is obviously listening, had the chance to make things right with the fellow who was charged for shipping for an item he didn't order. he could have addressed the situation raised by the original poster. the tone and content of his post say everything you need to know about the store IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhany_cahyadi Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 <p>I used to buy from tamarkin also and I have spent more than 10k buying from them. I dont know who is talking on the other side. But I think they are very rude also.</p> <p> </p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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