jeffrey_abelson Posted July 30, 2004 Share Posted July 30, 2004 I've never seen one so fast or so cheap...<p><a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=3829634290&ssPageName=STRK:MEDW:IT">Ebay auction</a> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Posted July 30, 2004 Share Posted July 30, 2004 It barely covers 6x6! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Posted July 30, 2004 Share Posted July 30, 2004 6 cm. x 6 cm, that is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffrey_abelson Posted July 30, 2004 Author Share Posted July 30, 2004 "It barely covers 6x6!" I thought it might be for an MF camera - but the ad says it was used for 5x7 negs - how can one tell? Jeffrey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rich long Posted July 30, 2004 Share Posted July 30, 2004 Schneider's web page indicates that the lens was recommended for 2" by (almost) 3" negatives (56x72). The seller indicates that he used it "to make 5x7 inch negatives". Seems to be some disconnect there. http://www.schneideroptics.com/info/vintage_lens_data/large_format_lenses/xenotar/data/2,8-80mm.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan_fromm2 Posted July 30, 2004 Share Posted July 30, 2004 J. Abelson asked "I thought it might be for an MF camera - but the ad says it was used for 5x7 negs - how can one tell?" Most of the people who sell photographic on eBay have no idea what they're selling. "Leinhoff" should have been a tipoff that squirrel_dog_95 was making it up. If you'd checked the vendor's recent sales, you'd have seen one set of artist's paints, one lens, and 23 pieces of clothing. And if you'd done a web search on Xenotar, or even searched on photo.net, you'd have learned that it is a normal lens, not a wide angle. The 80/2.8 Xenotar was the alternative to the 80/2.8 Planar on good Rolleiflexes, also on Graflex XLs. In short, you have to look out for yourself, not trust unknown people who are probably pretty ignorant. This one wasn't as bad as it could have been. I've seen clueless idiots offer 75/4.5 Tominon macro lenses as wide angle lenses fit for use on 8x10 cameras. At least Xenotars are good lenses and can be resold if bought by mistake. You didn't buy it, did you? Cheers, Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffrey_abelson Posted July 30, 2004 Author Share Posted July 30, 2004 "You didn't buy it, did you?" Nope - it didn't seem right... My most recent purchase was a cherry Topcor 210mm 5.6 for $200 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbq Posted July 30, 2004 Share Posted July 30, 2004 Given enough bellows, any lens covers any format... (Now I'm wondering what it would take to mount a 35mm lens (probably reversed) on my 4x5). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim_galli4 Posted July 30, 2004 Share Posted July 30, 2004 Dan is exactly right. Always do your homework. Plenty of info on the web. Xenotar's only have about 55 degree angle. It would barely cover 5X7 making copy negs 1:1. A use it wasn't designed for in any case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael_briggs2 Posted July 31, 2004 Share Posted July 31, 2004 Sellers of LF lenses on ebay frequently don't even reach the level of "trust but verify". A better policy for buyers would be "ignore until independently verified". Ebay sellers of LF lenses frequently made ridiculous claims about coverage and coatings. It is routine to see lenses that were made before multicoating was invented described as being multicoated. Sometimes sellers will correct these mistakes after an email, sometimes they won't. Ebay sellers in general have a tendancy to abuse the word "rarity" -- this seller calls the 80 mm Xenotar "very rare". There are some exceptional sellers who provide good information, such as Jim Galli of the previous answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emile_de_leon9 Posted July 31, 2004 Share Posted July 31, 2004 I own one that came with my Linhof Tech V 2x3. It is a great lens for that camera. Not a lot of circle though. Great image quality in a fast lens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darin_cozine Posted July 31, 2004 Share Posted July 31, 2004 I got a Xenotar for my century graphic. Interesting thing is that it does in fact cover 2x3 (barely). And in fact with that format it captures the same angle of view as a 35mm lens in 35mm format. -Pretty cool huh? www.cozinephoto.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan_fromm1 Posted July 31, 2004 Share Posted July 31, 2004 "I got a Xenotar for my century graphic. Interesting thing is that it does in fact cover 2x3 (barely)." Um, er, ah, Darin, what do you mean by cover? "Illuminates the corners" or "the image is sharp in the corners?" I ask because there's a lot of confusion about coverage floating around. Some posters here clearly mean "illuminates" even though most of us understand "covers" to mean "sharp in the corners." eBay sellers often use the loosest possible interpretation, if not looser than possible, as in the listing that sparked this thread. Cheers, Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daver1 Posted July 31, 2004 Share Posted July 31, 2004 Always best to check the image circle of the lens you're interested in...Quang Tuan-Luong's <a href="http://largeformatphotography.info">Large Format website</a> has great info on 4x5 and other LF lenses, including coverage circle, which is an obviously important characteristic you'll want to know when buying a lens from eBay. <p/> And I'll second the Jim Galli comment (hi Jim!), since I bought a 240mm lens from him that is exactly everything he advertised...Too bad more eBay LF sellers aren't like him. <p/> -Dave <p/> <a href="http://coyoteimages.com">Coyote Images</a> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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