matthewkane Posted July 14, 2004 Share Posted July 14, 2004 Ok I bought a dual 1.25ghz G4. It has Mac osx 10.3 panther.Specs- 1 gig of Ram, 160 gig HD, superdrive,etc... I bought this specifically for my photo work so this is my main concern. How should I configure for PSCS? For ram? What about scratch disks? How should I partition my HD? Where should I begin...I have heard a lot about setting up scratch disks properly, which I know little about. Should I even bother with a scratch disk initially with my comp as it is? How do you think you would configure my comp? Besides upgrading, what kind of upkeep is involved as far as making sure what to do/not to do, to keep my comp running at full potential?I'm asking you all because I just bought this comp and don't want to shell out another $50 for a book that may or may not address my question properly.Thanks a million Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray Posted July 14, 2004 Share Posted July 14, 2004 I would allocate 60-80% of your RAM to PS for optimal use (as long as you don't have too many other things running). As for scratch disks, I would only bother with that if you regularly work with large files *and* you have a second hard disk hanging off a separate controller. As you settle into your dual-processor system, you will find that even when PS is busy for 10 seconds + on a memory/cpu intensive process, the dual processor setup means that you can multitask on a different app without taking a hit on PS performance or machine useability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob_lazzarini Posted July 14, 2004 Share Posted July 14, 2004 Matt,<p>With OSX there is no longer any need to allocate memory to a program.<br> Memory management under OSX is entirely different from prior Mac OS's, since OSX allocates memory as a program requires it.<br>If you want to use a disc as a scratch disc, do yourself a large favor and install another fast internal drive.<br>If my memory serves me correctly, internal drives are far better for caching and as scratch discs due to the internal bus.<br>Either another 160 GB or a 250 GB.<br>Photoshop files have a tendancy to fill up space rapidly!<p>BTW, IMHO, the best book for you to get would be <i><b>MacOSX Panther Edition, The Missing Manual</b> by David Pogue. </i><br>And it's only $29.95!<p>Sooner or later you may want to get another 1 gig of Ram.<p>Enjoy your new toy!<br>Cheers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_macman Posted July 14, 2004 Share Posted July 14, 2004 With one HD you don't have the choice... that's gonna be your scratch disk. I wouldn't partition it. If you do, you can chose one of the partitions as your scratch disk but since they're all on the same HD it won't make it faster. I say it's perfect the way it is. You can partition it as a help to organizing files. Besides this there is really no point. However, in the future, if you run out of HD space buy a second one instead of replacing it. Have the files and application/OS on a different one than the scratch disk. That's about the only little speed improvement I can see but it doesn't matter much, you already got a great powerhorse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbq Posted July 14, 2004 Share Posted July 14, 2004 If you really insist on partitioning one HD, create one partition at the start of the drive for photoshop (the start of the drive is much faster), and use the same partition as your scratch disc and data storage. You'll see, a dual-1.25 is plenty fast for most photoshop operations, in th eones that I use a lot the only ones that I find annoyingly slow are median filter (not a big deal) and healing brush (very big deal). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael_chmilar Posted July 14, 2004 Share Posted July 14, 2004 The most useful upgrade for Photoshop is to add RAM. If you have lots of RAM, then Photoshop doesn't need to use the scratch disk. The 1G of RAM you have should be good, unless you are dealing with really large images, or lots and lots of layers. If you find that Photoshop is slowing down, and using the scratch disk, then you should install the maximum amount of RAM the machine can hold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooper8168 Posted July 14, 2004 Share Posted July 14, 2004 Congratulations! I have 2 of those very machines and they are supremely reliable. <p><i>The 1G of RAM you have should be good, unless you are dealing with really large images, or lots and lots of layers.</i> <p>That's 99% true, but OS X only allows a maximum of 2GB of RAM per application, so there's no need to overdo it. I think your current RAM setup is perfect. <p>I would definitely recommend either getting another internal 250GB drive with 8mb cache (can be had for a little over $200) or partitioning, as a previous poster said, with the scratch partition at the top. It is definitely faster that way - similar to the boost you get by optimizing for CD-ROM mastering in Norton under 9. If you can afford it, get the extra internal drive. <p>Also, do yourself a favor and get Disk Warrior as soon as possible! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a.d. steward Posted July 15, 2004 Share Posted July 15, 2004 I have the same machine but with 10.2.8 & 2 GB ram; for what its worth I've been warned that Panther and Disk Warrior do NOT play well together. I'd definitely keep it all clean with Aladdin Internet Clean-up and Norton SystemWorks, pass on Tech-Tool. Also GET the AppleCare ext. warranty. Make sure you get a good monitor and hardware (Not Software) calibration, something like Pantone Colorvision or one of the others. Yup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a.d. steward Posted July 15, 2004 Share Posted July 15, 2004 Oh Yeah, make certain you are uploading your cards via USB 2.0 and not 1.1, the only thing faster is FW-800. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooper8168 Posted July 15, 2004 Share Posted July 15, 2004 In response to the above post - Disk Warrior 3.0 and Panther had a compatibility problem in the first month that Panther was released, as did numerous other applications. Disk Warrior 3.0.1 (now 3.0.2) has been out for a number of months and is 100% compatible with Panther. We use it on all of our G4s and G5s, all but two running Panther, with complete success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulrumohr Posted July 15, 2004 Share Posted July 15, 2004 If you're working with higher res images, or want to work with PS and your web browser, email app, iTunes and others running at the same time, i recommend getting an extra 1GB of RAM. I worked with a dual 1.42 for a year like this and recently upgraded to 2GB RAM. I have noticed a definite improvement in overall system performance. You SHOULD shell out $50 for Martin Evening's Adobe Photoshop CS for Photographers that WILL tell you how to optimize and maintain your system. If you take the time to read the book and follow his suggestions, you should become a super user pretty quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
._._z Posted July 15, 2004 Share Posted July 15, 2004 The latest version of Disk Warrior works fine with Panther, and the beta of the upcoming release called 'Tiger.' Not only that, but it runs much faster than the old version. It's a must-have utility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gv Posted July 15, 2004 Share Posted July 15, 2004 If you decide to use your internal hard drive as your scratch disk I recommend partitioning it and designating the empty partition as your OS scratch disk. I neglected to do this initially and my OS X volume was the default scratch disk; it wound up getting very fragmented. D'Oh! In fact, it was so fragmented that DiskWarrior could not guarantee a trouble-free replacement directory since there was not 32MB of contiguous free space available! I had to defrag the drive in order to make things right... Among the Mac techies I hang with Norton SystemWorks has a less than stellar reputation. Norton seems to have slipped to a distant third in the drive utility line-up, after DiskWarrior and TechToolPro. 200-250 GB Western Digital 8MB buffer drives have been available at Circuit City for approximately $130 after rebates, give or take $10. These specials seem to appear regularly; I doubt that you would have to wait more than a month to snag a drive at a bargain-basement price. If you are new to Macs I second the recommendation re David Pogue's Missing Manual, although it can be had cheaper than $29.95 new and used through Amazon. And if you like friendly, free and knowledgeable tech support, I hope you will join us at techsurvivors.net, a Mac-only tech support forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthewkane Posted July 16, 2004 Author Share Posted July 16, 2004 Thanks for all the info. So what is Disk Warrior exactly? And how much is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooper8168 Posted July 16, 2004 Share Posted July 16, 2004 It's a disk utility with the primary purpose of optimizing directories. This prolongs the life of drives and helps them to run more efficiently while giving you a slight boost in performance. Disk Warrior does not optimize drives (read: defragment), but this isn't as critical under OS X because the OS performs that task as part of routine maintenance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gv Posted July 16, 2004 Share Posted July 16, 2004 DiskWarrior (available at http://www.alsoft.com/DiskWarrior/) is $79.95. It does one thing, but it does it better than anything else on the market: it repairs directory damage. As you may already know, the most serious computer problems (other than dying hardware) are caused by a damaged directory. DiskWarrior can be used to keep your directory in tip-top shape, or it can fix a seemingly hopeless-case directory meltdown. I have personally seen DW resurrect a Mac drive that seemed to be experiencing serious hardware problems to the point where it would not mount and it was making some nasty grinding sounds. Apple's DiskFirst Aid, TechToolPro and Norton could not do anything for the drive, but DiskWarrior came to the rescue and successfully repaired the drive, which continued operating for some years after that incident. It was still working fine when the owner upgraded to a newer Mac. Over the years I have come up with what I consider to be a bullet-proof way to prevent or mitigate the loss of important data (is there any other kind?) and computer down-time: regular use of DiskWarrior along with a second drive (internal or external...) Using CarbonCopyCloner (donation-ware; http://www.bombich.com/software/ccc.html) you can create an exact bootable copy of your OS X volume on the second drive. As long as you regularly backup you are good to go if your primary drive should temporarily or permanently go on vacation. It may be inconvenient to lose a drive, but it isn't the end of the world if you have your data backed-up and a second bootable drive immediately available so that you can keep on truckin'... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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