william_rubin Posted January 9, 2005 Share Posted January 9, 2005 My negs were scanned to CD (jpg) at the lab. I did touch up work on my Mac (as I always do) and saved the updated jpeg files to my hard drive. Now when I open the file the image is obviously pixelated. You can't see it at first glance but when zoomed in a little there is a problem. I've worked this way in the past and the images have never pixelated like this before. (The horizontal and vertical lines creating boxes and making up the images show.) When I've done this in the past the touched up images still appear like slightly grainy film when zoomed in. Can anyone tell me what happened and how to fix it? Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexdi Posted January 9, 2005 Share Posted January 9, 2005 Use a lower compression setting or save in a non-lossy format. TIFF, say. DI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
william_rubin Posted January 9, 2005 Author Share Posted January 9, 2005 I appreciate your response. Do you know why this would happen? It's never happened before. I touched up several photos (a lot of hours-ugh!) and now they look like ***. Is there a way to fix them so I don't have to redo all of my work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hsksla_ddygff Posted January 10, 2005 Share Posted January 10, 2005 best to work on image as TIFF, each time you "save as" JPEG you lose image quality, best to complete work in TIFF and save as jpeg your last step. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexdi Posted January 10, 2005 Share Posted January 10, 2005 Maybe. Post a sample crop and I'll tell you soon enough. DI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
william_rubin Posted January 10, 2005 Author Share Posted January 10, 2005 Here is the original jpg from a scanned neg.<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
william_rubin Posted January 10, 2005 Author Share Posted January 10, 2005 Here is a smaller original.<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
william_rubin Posted January 10, 2005 Author Share Posted January 10, 2005 Here is the original saved after touch up as a jpg. Why the obvious pixels??<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul - Posted January 10, 2005 Share Posted January 10, 2005 Those blocks aren't pixels, those are jpeg artifacts. A pixel wouldn't be that large, or have multiple tones in it. Artifacts are the expected result from over-compressing and re-saving jpegs.<p>Since the "original" scan doesn't have them, you are introducing them when resaving. After editing the image, resave as TIFF and you shouldn't have this problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
william_rubin Posted January 10, 2005 Author Share Posted January 10, 2005 Thank you for your reply. jpeg artifacts huh...learn something new every day. So can i save my work from this or do i need to go back to the original and redo the touch ups, which are many? I can't figure out why it did this on all of my recent work but hasn't done this in the past. Did I do something? If my lab requests jpeg. Should I save as tif and then save a second one as jpeg? How can i avoid this in the future? Thanks again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitmstr Posted January 10, 2005 Share Posted January 10, 2005 JPG is a LOSSY compression that is, everytime you click SAVE it will compress, and compress, etc... Do the following: 1) CONVERT the *original* pictures you want to EDIT in TIFF format. 2) do ALL the editing and SAVE as TIFF 3) Convert to HIGH quality JPG for your lab Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexdi Posted January 10, 2005 Share Posted January 10, 2005 What he said. Presumably you've got a pretty good idea what you did, so perhaps it won't take so long the second time around. Good luck, DI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
william_rubin Posted January 12, 2005 Author Share Posted January 12, 2005 I did what you said and it worked. I just can't understand why I never had this problem before. But then again, maybe I did have the artifacts before and didn't notice it until now. Thanks again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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