m_. Posted May 14, 2004 Share Posted May 14, 2004 Not exactly sure how this is going to fit in this forum but what the heck, the moderator can delete as please. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/photo/essays/vanRiper/index.htm All starts with a book I read from Cris McCathy with images of border crossing a while ago. Then I ran into this article about how she used a Holga to make pano images. Then the article drifted on to discussions on what these cheap Chinese made cameras can do to "surprise" you. It sounds to indicate that it is this "surprise" or unpredicability that keeps the excitement for her to move on her photography. I myself have been thinking about doing pinhole or Holga stuff for a while now. As a matter of fact, I debated with myself if I wanted to get an M6 or a...pinhole and the likes just a few weeks back but I lost the debate to an M6 (hugely due to the guilt feeling I had for not getting an M6 that was what the gift was for initially). Now my upcoming trip to Bolivia once again brings that debate into focus: do I take my M6 as planned or do I just go with a, say, Holga? And what does it really matter? Your thoguhts, I mean, not necessarily for my upcoming trip but in general? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray . Posted May 14, 2004 Share Posted May 14, 2004 I'd take something more capable than a Holga on a trip, that's for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beau 1664876222 Posted May 14, 2004 Share Posted May 14, 2004 I'm getting bored of the low-fi-square-image genre. Bring your M6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
o fragasi Posted May 14, 2004 Share Posted May 14, 2004 Been there, done that. Take the m6 and the Holga. You'll have alot of fun with the Holga, but you'll regret not having a 'regular' camera with you if you dont take the m6 too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m_. Posted May 14, 2004 Author Share Posted May 14, 2004 Hm...now, that's hard to argue. M6 is a lot more capable than a Holga can ever be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sliu Posted May 14, 2004 Share Posted May 14, 2004 I am 99% in Holga now. My Nikons are in the closet and even Olympus P&S has a half full roll for many weeks. A Holga is a magic camera, it seems to have its own soul. Everytime I try to control it, I failed. If I let it do what it want, the results usually surprise me. To make a choice between a toy as a camera (Holga) or a camera as a toy (Leica), I would pick former. In a few hours I am going to pick up the contact sheet from my second Holga, 120SF (with flash). I can't wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sliu Posted May 14, 2004 Share Posted May 14, 2004 BTW, if you want control, don't get a Holga. A Holga is not for serious job assignment, it is for serious photography. It is a buddy not a slave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m_. Posted May 14, 2004 Author Share Posted May 14, 2004 S. Liu: I like the acknowledgement of a camera with its own soul. It's a good thing to keep reminding yourself when things don't work out the way you wanted. Photographers tend to control too much. I have noticed that myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deardorff8x10 Posted May 14, 2004 Share Posted May 14, 2004 I took an M body cap, drilled a hole, and attached the meniscus lens and aperature (about f8) from a disposable (I got it free at a lab) behind the hole. The lens is about 35mm, and that was just about the distance from the film to the back of the body cap (it is really a bit longer, but that allows for "focus" at about 6 feeet). The result is Holga-like images, but with shutter speeds on 35mm, plus, I can switch to regular M lenses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnmarkpainter Posted May 14, 2004 Share Posted May 14, 2004 Wentong, The Holga/Lomo thing can be a lot of fun...BUT I would NEVER trust an important trip to either one. I went on trip once with a Lomo and a Holga. I got a few good shots, but lost many others. jmp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melvin_bressler Posted May 14, 2004 Share Posted May 14, 2004 Wentong: Sure, you can do it, but if you want any control, that's not the way to go. Remember, its really a point and shoot camera. It can be fun, but I think you'd be more comfortable with both cameras. Why not shoot the same scene with both cameras, and post them. BTW, are you sure that the Holga is made in China?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sliu Posted May 14, 2004 Share Posted May 14, 2004 Yes. Holga IS made in China. Here is a frame from first roll in my second Holga.<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j m shaw Posted May 15, 2004 Share Posted May 15, 2004 The Holga is a blast, I have several modified (pano, polaroid back...) and as they come out of the box. I love the spontaneous unpredictable images they create. but they aren't at all reliable , so for a trip I agree with the others take the Leica and Holga, you will have 2 very different impressions of your destination:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travis1 Posted May 15, 2004 Share Posted May 15, 2004 Wentong, take the Leiga and the Holca. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter_evans4 Posted May 15, 2004 Share Posted May 15, 2004 <p>WenTong, it's handy to be able to take lots of pics without having to reload. If you can't bring yourself to use <a id="a" title="The Wave Of The Future, And You'd Better Believe It">digital</a>, then how about <a title="Laugh at the sight of Leica collectors creaming their jeans." href="http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=30030&item=3815139272&rd=1">this</a>?</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huw_finney Posted May 15, 2004 Share Posted May 15, 2004 Or you could get the new 'Acme Holga Plugin' for Photoshop ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m_. Posted May 15, 2004 Author Share Posted May 15, 2004 Well, sounds like I will at elast bring a Leica. Peter: Yeah, if I could afford that auction...Is that for real? Who wants that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter_evans4 Posted May 16, 2004 Share Posted May 16, 2004 WenTong, you're too young and intelligent, and much too good a photographer, to worry about Leica "collectibles". But it may not be a bad deal after all. Consider <a href="http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/worldbiz/photo/2004/05/15/2003131503">how much people pay for melons these days</a>.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nesrani Posted May 16, 2004 Share Posted May 16, 2004 Quite a nice snap, S Liu, but consider setting the black and white points to the left hand corner vignetting and the sky respectively, it is very washed out as is. Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sliu Posted May 16, 2004 Share Posted May 16, 2004 Rob, I was in the hurry when I shot that negative with my digital camera and inverted in photoshop. Here is one adjusted according to your advice. Thank you. <p> <a href="http://www.photo.net/photo/2365190&size=lg"> <img src="http://d6d2h4gfvy8t8.cloudfront.net/2365190-sm.jpg" border="0"></a> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liam_maloney Posted May 16, 2004 Share Posted May 16, 2004 When are you going to Bolivia? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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