mark u Posted January 27, 2004 Share Posted January 27, 2004 <html> <p>EOS 1D II Links</p> <p><a href="http://grubbel.com/~magnus/eos/122.pdf">http://grubbel.com/~magnus/eos/122.pdf</a></p> <p><a href="http://grubbel.com/~magnus/eos/1DmkII.pdf">http://grubbel.com/~magnus/eos/1DmkII.pdf</a></p> <p> </p></body></html> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_hawkins Posted January 27, 2004 Share Posted January 27, 2004 Is this real or is it a spoof? If real, we are left with 2 questions. What is the price and when is it available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antony_bichon Posted January 27, 2004 Share Posted January 27, 2004 Is this another attempt to blame the French?<BR> Weird that Canon would annouce on the French market first (maybe Canadian)... ususally French are not as great consumers as the American are.<BR> And I thought it was "Canon Know How"!<BR> <BR> :)<BR> Antony<BR> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark u Posted January 27, 2004 Author Share Posted January 27, 2004 The pdfs were copied from the Canon France site - I guess their web techies were testing but left the door open to the outside world. Access was swiftly withdrawn, but too late. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beauh44 Posted January 27, 2004 Share Posted January 27, 2004 There's an interesting article in this month's Pop Photo (or is it Shutterbug?) anyway, the author talked about photos that surface on the Internet of the next, "new" Canon cameras that are obviously doctored-up. He said he saw one that was a supposed successor to the 1Ds - except it had a film re-wind button (it was really a 1V) on it. D'oh!! That said, interestingly enough, the same article speculated that a new 8 Mp camera from Canon would surface at the PMA in February. And even though I can't speak French, I muddled through grubbel's page a bit and it looks pretty legit to me. Perhaps an advertisement fell out of someone's briefcase somewhere. ;-) Bottom line - we probably won't know for sure until they announce it officially or start sending out evaluation units to people. If true, it'll make some big prints! Best wishes . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike_sazhin Posted January 27, 2004 Share Posted January 27, 2004 Can anyone manage a rough translation? What I got is that it can do 8 megapixels at 8.5 fps for 40 images... Nikon's goin down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olivier_de_lame Posted January 28, 2004 Share Posted January 28, 2004 Hi, I cannot do a full translation, but here are the main differences with respect with EOS 1D (I): - 8.2 Megapixels - Up to 8.5 frames/second for the new buffer of 40 Jpeg frames or 20 RAW frames - New processor New white balance (ultra-precise) - 2 slots for CF and SD - 50 to 3200 ISO (in fact 100 to 1600, but with possibility to go to 50 and 3200 trough CF (??)) - New E-TTL (They call this E-TTL II); will work with EX - LCD screen of 230000 pixels. - CMOS sensor. - Much more expensive :-) (Did you expect the opposite ?) Regards, Olivier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
25asa Posted January 28, 2004 Share Posted January 28, 2004 Here is a rough translastion of one of the PDF files listed above. There was mention of April 2004- so maybe thats when this will be out. I wonder if the 1Ds will get any improvements. Here it is below: Directly inspired of the EOS-1D, the EOS-1D II becomes the newreference pro: Sensor CMOS 8,2 Megapixels, motorization up to 8,5i/sec up to 40 images JPEG in sequences, new processor DIGIC, 2residences memory board, news measures E-TTL with the flash.Again, Canon confirms with an effectiveness and a speed of innovation,its total engagement in the development of its system numerical reflexcamera EOS. After the advent of the EOS-300D, the numerical accessibleone to general public, after the very general-purpose EOS-10D, and theEOS-1DS with sensor full format, Canon reconsiders the front of thescene with a new occupational numerical reflex camera which comeslogically in the place from the EOS-1D. the EOS-1D II is not satisfiedto be a simple substitute but on the contrary, is affirmed within thisnumerical range EOS by a marked personality and many innovations whichwill allure the most demanding professionals. the EOS-1D II is a esthète smoothness of image thanks to a sensorCMOS of 8,2 million effective pixels for a quality of image of veryhigh resolution. It is also affirmed like the tool of infernal rateson many plans: give rhythm of catch of sight carried uninterrupted to8,5 im/s (8 im/s for the EOS-1D) with a number of maximum sights persequence of 40 sights in broad JPEG (21 for the EOS-1D), anexceptional endurance of the obturator: 200 000 releases minimum(150.000 for the EOS-1D), a port IEEE 1394 to 4 pins allowing atransfer at the speed of 100 Mo/s. It adds to it from now on aremarkable speed of image processing thanks to its processor DIGIC ofnew generation and an increased speed as regards writing on the memoryboard. In the field of storage, not only the EOS-1D II accepts thesupports of recordings of more than 2 Go but it in addition has 2residences to use 2 types of memory boards (1 CF and 1 SD) whoserecording can be simultaneous or selective.The total control of returned colors is ensured by 5 matrices withclear identification of their specificity (Standard, Portrait, Highsaturation, Espace Adobe RVB, weak saturation) more 2 matricespersonnalisables and a histogram RVB which makes it possible tocontrol the distribution of the primary colors in the image. TheEOS-1DII allows a new approach as regards adjustment of balance of thewhite by the integration of a numerical filter color which makes itpossible to apply effects of corrections equivalent to those obtainedwith filters DC (9 levels of correction in bleu/ambre andmagenta/vert). A new measurement flash E-TTL even more precise,with analysis of the distance from the subject via optics. It offersalso a comfort increased in the phases of visualization of therecorded images: a display screen of 230.000 pixels for an optimalresolution in posting of the images recorded, rotation of the verticalsights automatic or manual, possibility of enlarging of 1,5x with 10xon 15 levels, video exit. Compatible Pictbridge a simple connectionUSB with a printer makes it possible to immediately print after thecatch of sights the photographs carried out. Software side File ViewerUtility profits from a new development which increases itsperformances and the possibilities offered to the user: speed oftreatment of files RAW, faster posting of the images, palletsseparated for adjustments RAW and the adjustments from tonal curves,posting of infos IPTC (infos of telecommunications) and new functionof enlarging of a zone of the image for an accurate check of thedevelopment. Numerical Reflex camera II CASE? Numerical reflex camera withinterchangeable objectives (mounting EF) except EF-S SENSOR? CMOSwith primary filter color (RVB) PROCESSOR? DOES DIGIC II CUT SENSOR?28,7 X 19,1 mm DEFINITION? 8,5 mégapixels (8,2 manpower) SIZE PIXELS?8,2 X 8,2µ RATIO IMAGE? 2: 3 FOCAL DISTANCES? Coefficient 1,3xAUTOFOCUS? TTL-AREA-SIR with sensor CMOS? 45, 11ou 9 automaticallyactivated collimators AF or sélectionnables individually manually?Possible memorizing of only one collimator? Do mode One-shot and ServoHave predictive? Beach of development from 0 to 18 EV for 100 ISOSIGHT? Cover image 100 %? Enlargement 0,72 X? Dioptric correctorintegrated of - 3 into + 1D? Hides ocular integrated? 9interchangeable glasses of aiming? does 9 interchangeable glasses of aiming MEASURE LIGHT? Evaluative21 zones coupled with collimators AF? Selective 8,5 %? Spot centered2,4 %? Spot 2,4 % coupled to 11 or 9 collimators AF? Multispot on 8points? Does integral with central prevalence BALANCE WHITE? Automaticwith sensor CMOS + disengageable manually (6 modes)? 9 levels ofcorrections of the balance of the white: bleu/ambre and 9magenta/vert? Bracketing car ± 3 IT by 1 value? Manual adjustment ofthe temperature of color of 2800 K to 10 000 K? does 3 balances of thememorable white via software STAMP COLOR? 5 Matrices to select thecolour, the chrominance, the beach of color + 2 personnalisablesOBTURATING? Carbon and super-duralumin. From 30 does dryness with1/8000ème + pose B? Synchro Flash 1/250ème MODES? Programsdécalable, Tv, AV, EPD, Manuel? Bracketing car ± 3 IT by 1/3 ofvalue? Correction of exposure ± 3 IT by 1/3 or 1/2 of value?Memorizing of exposure? Depth of field controls? Adjustment of theparameters of clearness, curves of tonalities, contrasts MOTORIZATION? Sight by sight, 3 im, 8,5 im/sec up to 40 sights inbroad JPEG and 20 in RAW in sequences? Retarder 10 secondes/2 secondSENSITIVITY? From 100 to do 1600 ISO with function of personalizationfrom 50 to 3200 ISO MEASURE FLASH? New E-TTL II compatibleSpeedlite EX? Correction of exposure + 3 values by 1/3 of value?Bracketing with the flash? Catch synchro flash POSTING?Screen LCD 2"230 000 pixels with 5 levels of luminosity via menu?Enlargement of the image in reading of 1,5x with 10x? Automatic andmanual rotation of the image? Histogram light, histogram RVBRECORDING? Standard CompactFlash chart I, II and Microdrive IBM? ChartSD? Automatic commutation FAT 16 or 32? Formats of recording: JPEG,RAW, RAW + JPEG? Recording modes: RAW (3504 X 2336) 8,2 Mo, Broad(3504 X 2336) 8,2 Mo, Medium 1 (3104 X 2072) 6,4 Mo, Medium 2 (2544 X1696) 4,3 Mo, Small (1728 X 1152) 2Mo? Sound recording via microphoneintegrated in file WAVE. 30 second maximum by image CONNECTION?Interfaces IEEE 1394, USB 1.1 (PTP), Vidéo (PAL/NTSC) IMPRESSION?Compatible Direct print, DCF 2.0, Exif print version 2.21 and DPOFversion 1.1, PictBridge ERGONOMICS? 21 functions of personalization ofthe case? 3 groups of memorable functions of personalization? 27personal functions? Automatic recording of the data of catch of sightCOMPLETION? Alloy magnesium cap and frontage, room reflex andaluminium platinum? frame out of moulded aluminium, polycarbonate andglass fibre SEALING? 70 points of sealing to dust and water via jointsand silicone FOOD partition? Battery NP-E3 12V 1650 mAh (1200 sightsapproximately with 20°) DIMENSIONS? 156 X 158 X 80 mm WEIGHT? 1220 G(without food) LAUNCHING? April 2004 ACCESSORIES? Does battery NP-E3,charger NC-E2, coupler DCK-E1, L5 belt, cable of interface IFC-400PCU, IFC-200D4, video cable VC-100, pilot TWAIN, software EOS ViewerUtility/EOS Capture PhotoStich, DIGITAL Photo Professional deliveredin series CODES MERCURY? 9313A009 CODE EAN? 8714574931630 MOREPRODUCED THE CHART* Of course, you can* ? Sensor CMOS 8,2 Megapixels? Motorization up to 8,5 images/sec?Buffer high capacity 40 Images in JPEG? New processor DIGIC? Balanceswhite ultra-precise? 2 residences memory board CF and SD? Sensitivityfrom 50 to 3200 ISO? New measurement flash E-TTL? Screen LCD highresolution 230 000 pixels? Compatible PictBridge and PTP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michiel_bernhard Posted January 28, 2004 Share Posted January 28, 2004 Since neither French nor English are my first languages (and I am a numbercruncher, not a lingo) this is what I make of it: 8.2 MP CMOS sensor (28,7 x 19,1 mm; 1.3x) 8.5 pictures a second 40 pictures memory in JPEG Large mode New DIGIC processor Ultra exact white balance control CF (I & II) and SD card slots 50 to 3200 ISO range New E-TTL measuring 230.000 pixel 2� LCD screen Pictbridge compatible Replacement of the 1D Firewire and USB 1.1 connection Launche: April 2004 Battery: NP-E3 (1.650 Ma) Focus & metering: like 1v Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
25asa Posted January 28, 2004 Share Posted January 28, 2004 The above where it has question marks- ignore. Its just showing the features of the camera. Here below is the chunk of text from the second pDF file: Again, Canon confirms with an effectiveness and a speed of innovation, its total engagement in the development of its system numerical reflex camera EOS. After the advent of the EOS-300D, the numerical accessible one to general public, after the very general-purpose EOS-10D, and the EOS-1DS with sensor full format, Canon reconsiders the front of the scene with a new occupational numerical reflex camera which comes logically in the place from the EOS-1D. the EOS-1D II is not satisfied to be a simple substitute but on the contrary, is affirmed within this numerical range EOS by a marked personality and by many innovations which will allure the most demanding professionals the EOS-1D II is a esthète smoothness of image thanks to a sensor CMOS of 8,2 million effective pixels for a quality of image very high It is also affirmed like the tool of infernal rates on many plans: give rhythm of catch of sight carried uninterrupted to 8,5 im/s (8 im/s for the EOS-1D) with a number of maximum sights per sequence of 40 sights in broad JPEG (21 for the EOS-1D), an exceptional endurance of the obturator: 200 000 releases minimum (150.000 for the EOS-1D), a port IEEE 1394 to 4 pins allowing a transfer at the speed of 100 Mo/s. It adds to it from now on a remarkable speed of image processing thanks to its processor DIGIC of new generation and an increased speed as regards writing on the memory board. In the field of storage, not only the EOS-1D II accepts the supports of recordings of more than 2 Go but it in addition has 2 residences to use 2 types of memory boards (1 CF and 1 SD) whose recording can be simultaneous or selective. The total control of returned colors is ensured by 5 matrices with clear identification of their specificity (Standard, Portrait, High saturation, Espace Adobe RVB, weak saturation) more 2 matrices personnalisables and a histogram RVB which makes it possible to control the distribution of the primary colors in the image. The EOS-1DII allows a new approach as regards adjustment of balance of the white by the integration of a numerical filter color which makes it possible to apply effects of corrections equivalent to those obtained with filters DC (9 levels of correction in bleu/ambre and magenta/vert). A new measurement flash E-TTL even more precise, with analysis of the distance from the subject via optics. It offers also a comfort increased in the phases of visualization of the recorded images: a display screen of 230.000 pixels for an optimal resolution in posting ofimages recorded, rotation of the vertical sights automatic or manual, possibility of enlarging of 1,5x with 10x on 15 levels, video exit. Compatible Pictbridge a simple connection USB with a printer makes it possible to immediately print after the catch of sights the photographs carried out. Software side File Viewer Utility profits from a new development which increases its performances and the possibilities offered to the user: speed of treatment of files RAW, faster posting of the images, pallets separated for adjustments RAW and the adjustments from tonal curves, posting of infos IPTC (infos of telecommunications) and new function of enlarging of a zone of the image for an accurate check of the development. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patrick_smeaton Posted January 28, 2004 Share Posted January 28, 2004 I hope to god there is a least one mistake: According to those specs, Canon is still stuck on using NiMH batteries for their pro cameras and (the MUCH better) Lithium-Ion batteries for all others. What complete stupidity! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmitry_apresian Posted January 28, 2004 Share Posted January 28, 2004 Doesn't it sound a little strange that in 2004 Canon would release a camera with an 8.5MP sensor and a USB 1.1 connection, not a USB 2.0 Hi-Speed one? It would still be backwards compatible with USB 1.1 but would actually provide an alternative to firewire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david arnold eugene, oreg Posted January 29, 2004 Share Posted January 29, 2004 You can read Canon's 1D Mk II press release (in English) on <a href="http://www.dpreview.com/news/0401/04012904canoneos1dmkii.asp">dp Review</a>. At the end of the release there's a link to a detailed "preview" (not a hands-on review) by Phil Askey. US price is $4,499. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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