michael_matsil Posted January 23, 2004 Share Posted January 23, 2004 Here's a change of pace: I was doing a photo.net search and stumbled upon some threads on waist level M finders. I thought, "that sounds like fun". I've learned that Leica made a few of these in the screw mount days. Some of them seemed to be a little complicated. I would be just interested in something mounted on the flash shoe that was a basic periscopic auxiliary viewfinder (magnified) for shooting from chest height or below. You look down at it to give you a basic layout of your frame. It would give you a 35 or 50 mm view. I saw an interesting one made by Zeiss with a part # 436/8. A picture of it below. This one is said to rotate to give you landscape and portrait orientation without removing and repostioning it (like the Leicas.) Any experience with these? My minds open on this. Thanks.<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jay_. Posted January 23, 2004 Share Posted January 23, 2004 HCB didn't use a w/l finder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vic_. Posted January 23, 2004 Share Posted January 23, 2004 Would the viewed items be upside down, left to right, or the same as no finder? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregory_goh Posted January 23, 2004 Share Posted January 23, 2004 I believe Voigtlander makes angle finders that are shoe-mountable, although I seem to rememebr that they have various attachments for specific (wide angle) focal lenghts - don't know about the 35 or 50 mm perspectives Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew n.bra hrefhttp Posted January 23, 2004 Share Posted January 23, 2004 Michael - the Zeiss finder is the one I use. I have plenty of details about it (along with other WL finders) in my FAQ at:<P> <A HREF="http://nemeng.com/leica/027b.shtml"> http://nemeng.com/leica/027b.shtml </A> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
__jon__ Posted January 23, 2004 Share Posted January 23, 2004 >Andrew Nemeth , jan 23, 2004; 09:10 p.m.Michael - the Zeiss finder is the one I use. I have plenty of details about it (along with other WL finders) in my FAQ at: >http://nemeng.com/leica/027b.shtml http://www.cameraquest.com/kuhn.htm Object not found Many dead links in this FAQ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter_evans4 Posted January 23, 2004 Share Posted January 23, 2004 The link in the preceding message points out that the Cosina right-angle finders won't work at "chest height or below"; in addition, there's no 35mm or 50mm attachment for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter_n1664876959 Posted January 23, 2004 Share Posted January 23, 2004 <i>HCB didn't use a w /l finder.</i><br><br> HCB didn't take pictures on subway and commuter trains, where something like this can come in very handy indeed.<br><br> <i>Would the viewed items be upside down, left to right, or the same as no finder?</i><br><br> I have one of these Zeiss 436/8 finders, and it provides the correct vertical and horizontal orientation. The viewfinder is a little small at 1cm x 1cm, but perfectly adequate for positioning the subject and making sure the angles are correct. It does a good job.<br><br> <i>I would be just interested in something mounted on the flash shoe that was a basic periscopic auxiliary viewfinder (magnified) for shooting from chest height or below. You look down at it to give you a basic layout of your frame. It would give you a 35 or 50 mm view.</i><br><br> Take a look at the link below - just what you're looking for! :)<br><br> <a href="http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Museum/6607/wlf.htm">Mr. M's Waist-Level Finder</a> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew n.bra hrefhttp Posted January 23, 2004 Share Posted January 23, 2004 <I>Many dead links in this FAQ.</I><P> Hmm, sort-of mirrors the number of half-wits on photo.net - no?<P> Might it not be an idea to email Stephen Gandy at cameraquest.com directly to ask <U>him</U> what happened to his page and URL?... (Gosh, wouldn't that be clever...)<P> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jay_. Posted January 23, 2004 Share Posted January 23, 2004 <<HCB didn't take pictures on subway and commuter trains, where something like this can come in very handy indeed.>> Well then, the only logical conclusion that a true Leica photographer can draw is that a Leica isn't designed to be used on subway and commuter trains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ed_schwartzreich Posted January 24, 2004 Share Posted January 24, 2004 The Leica series of AUFZU(50), AYOOC (35/50), and AHOOT (28/50)date from the early 1930's and do the same thing. I have an AYOOC and it is very handy for especially an aperture preferred camera like a CLE or an M7. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael_matsil Posted January 24, 2004 Author Share Posted January 24, 2004 Jay, I'm not sure whether your 2 posts here are intended to be facetious or what? I hope they are....that last one is pretty linear logic. I'm not really consumed with what HCB would use or definitions of "true Leica photographers." I like to find things out for myself. Leicas are also not designed to be used with super wide lenses, but people regularly fit them with auxiliary finders and shoot away....are those people misguided? To the rest of you...thanks for your input. The Zeiss thingy looks like it might be what I'm looking for. If anyone knows where I can get one, let me know. Peter: I'll check out that Mr. M device; it looks like fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jay_. Posted January 24, 2004 Share Posted January 24, 2004 <<I like to find things out for myself. Leicas are also not designed to be used with super wide lenses, but people regularly fit them with auxiliary finders and shoot away....are those people misguided? >> Of course not, anyone who's read the Internet Manifesto of Approved Leica Usage knows that Leicas were *designed* to be used with wide-angle lenses. It's those scofflaws who use 135mm that are misguided. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael_matsil Posted January 24, 2004 Author Share Posted January 24, 2004 J: Now I know you're insane ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jay_. Posted January 24, 2004 Share Posted January 24, 2004 Michael, I hope my sarcasm didn't muss your hair when it went by over your head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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