herz1 Posted January 23, 2004 Share Posted January 23, 2004 Hello On the piece that you screw on to the rear of a lens to hld it to the board...there are always three notches. I do not like to use a screw driver to loosen and tighten. Is there a tool that I can buy that is specific to this purpose...and where will i find it? please email me at herz1@optonline.net thanks eric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mallen Posted January 23, 2004 Share Posted January 23, 2004 Yes. It's a spanner. You can order one from Badger, B&H, or other source that sells large format equipment. I bought the Rodenstock model for about $10-$15 or so. You can spend more but probably don't need to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael_briggs2 Posted January 23, 2004 Share Posted January 23, 2004 The retaining ring that clamps the shutter of a LF lens to the lensboard normally has two notches. The notches are located diametrically opposite each other. One tool to use is a spanner wrench, which has tips that fit into the notches and is adjustable for the diameter of the ring. Another style tool is made specifically for the common sizes of retaining rings, for #0 and #1 shutters. This tool is cut out from sheet metal so that it fits the notch spacing of the retaining rings of these shutters. This tool is cheaper and very easy to use, so I recommend this style if your shutters are all #0 or #1 sizes. Both Rodenstock and Toyo make this style of tool. They are stocked by large photo stores and by photo stores that specialize in LF items. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael_briggs2 Posted January 23, 2004 Share Posted January 23, 2004 <p>Additional information -- the <a href="http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=productlist&A=details&Q=&sku=131992&is=USA">Rodenstock version</a> of the flat metal tool will do #0 and #1 shutters, and the Copal, Compur and Prontor #3 shutters. The <a href="http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=productlist&A=details&Q=&sku=61131&is=REG">Toyo version</a> will do Copal/Compur/Seiko #0 and #1 shutters.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cxc Posted January 23, 2004 Share Posted January 23, 2004 Buy the tool made from a sheet of metal, like Toyo and Rodenstock make. Yes it is overpriced, what isn't. They appear regularly on ePay. Do NOT buy the cool looking thing made up of two little screw drivers that slide along a little rail -- doesn't work at all well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norris_lam Posted January 24, 2004 Share Posted January 24, 2004 My personal experience is that if you don't need to remove lens from lensboard oftenly, you actually do not require such tool, use a dry towel to hold the piece you screw onto the rear of the lensboard, rotate the copal shutter at the front until it is tight. Of course, you need to try and rotate the front shutter so that the aperture rings, shutter crock, etc., are rested on the desire location on the lensboard. Once it is done, rarely you will need to remove the lens from its lensboard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim_curry Posted January 24, 2004 Share Posted January 24, 2004 It is very easy to make a spanner wrench for these rings. Find a peice of sheet metal which is the correct thickness. Measure the depth to clear the threads etc. and the width for the notch. Scribe a line to this depth then mark the width of the opening. Use a vice and file to make the opening. Check frequently until a good fit is made. After a good fit is established, gently file a small amount of "draft" or taper along the bottom edges, so that only the bottom corner which fits the notch makes contact with the ring. Otherwise, a flat bottom can scratch the back of the lens board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s.k. grimes inc Posted January 24, 2004 Share Posted January 24, 2004 It sounds as though the piece with the three notches is actually flange. http://www.skgrimes.com/adapter/index.htm These threaded rings are intended to be directly fastened to the lens board with screws. Often flanges are used as retaining rings, since drilling and tapping metal lens boards is not a common skill taught in photo 101. When searching for a spanner wrench, also note theer are two type of wrenches, flat tipped and round tipped and it important to use the correct tip with the corresponding retaining ring to avoid damaging the ring and/or the lens. http://www.skgrimes.com/span/index.htm Also, some shutters utilize locating pins which are attached to the back of the shutter. A notch in the lens board is created to "locate" the pin. If you attempt to remove a shutter with a locating pin by turning/twisting the shutter, you may jar the pin, strip its threads, damage the shutter, and/or board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyverndude Posted January 25, 2004 Share Posted January 25, 2004 The best tool I've ever found for doing this is called a watch crab. Per previous responses, the only lens retaining ring I'm used to seeing is the type with pairs of diametrically opposed notches. A watch case crab won't work on a camera -where you have to reach into the camera body- but for shutters mounted on lensboards, it can't be beat. See Micro Tools cat. no JT621 http://www.micro-tools.com/Merchant2/wch.htm This is the one I have. (They call it a Watch Opener Spanner). At $5.70, this pays for itself in saved aggravation alone the first time you use it. The fingers can be snugged into the retaining ring to almost guarantee that it won't slip out, and the handle is a good size to get a really firm grip. Mine adjusts from a minimum of 11.3mm to a maximum of 48.2mm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leica ron Posted January 27, 2004 Share Posted January 27, 2004 I use the SKGrimes spanner wrench with the flat-tip ends. It works very well, I also own the Rodenstock sheet-metal wrench which won't fit into the space behind my Wisner boards, therefore it's useless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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