robert_davis7 Posted April 23, 2004 Share Posted April 23, 2004 Dost my eyes deceive me? It seems to me that the photos taken with my EOS 1N and 540EZ look better than those taken with my EOS 3 and 420EX. They just look more natural, and the photos look better exposed. The 420EX seemed kind of hot, but the 540EZ ... wow. Anyone else out there notice differences? Does anyone else prefer A-TTL (or straight TTL) over E-TTL? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill_goldman Posted April 23, 2004 Share Posted April 23, 2004 My experience has been just the opposite. When I upgraded from my EOS-1N and 540EZ to the EOS-1v and 550EX, my flash pictures improved dramatically. E-TTL is also the first system I've used that really makes bounce flash foolproof. Maybe your 420EX is not performing optimally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PuppyDigs Posted April 23, 2004 Share Posted April 23, 2004 I found that you can get equally excellent results with both once you learn the idiosyncrasies. I started with A-TTL and used it for 10 years before switching to E-TTL. After a short learning curve, I learned how to get A-TTL to do what I wanted, e.g., which situations to apply FEC. At first I got terrible results E-TTL, but eventually learned its wrinkles too. However, E-TTL seems to need more manual overrides than A-TTL ever did, especially with DSLRs. The only real advantages of E-TTL over A-TTL are the abilities to use wireless slaves and set ratios with multiple units. Sometimes the light’s all shining on me. Other times I can barely see. - Robert Hunter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott_ferris Posted April 24, 2004 Share Posted April 24, 2004 Hi Robert, Not as experianced as Bill or Puppyface never having used A- TTL, but I did use TTL, IMHO E-TTL is fantastic, swiveling bounce flash with no brackets at weddings is a dream. I haven't found the need to override it, indeed in tests I did before my first wedding with E-TTL on print film it was difficult to tell what mode was being used, although I agree flash compensation can be hit and miss I haven't had one unprintable neg due to poor flash performance. Take care, Scott. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krieves Posted April 24, 2004 Share Posted April 24, 2004 I have a D300 and the 550ex. I still trying to figure out how to get predictable bounce flash results. I other digital camera, an Olympus 3030 with an FL-40 flash, is much simpler and predictable. The Canon seems to always under expose. I'm probably not doing something right. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincent_j_m Posted April 24, 2004 Share Posted April 24, 2004 In my experience with my old EOS and Vivitars (ATTL) they are far more idiot proof than ETTL flash. I could almost always get accurate exposure with my old ATTL setup. I have to be a lot more careful with ETTL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maureen_m Posted April 24, 2004 Share Posted April 24, 2004 There's no arguing with success, as many people seem to have better results with TTL/ATTL over ETTL. Still it is strange, considering TTL/ATTL meter one of only three areas of the image, and that area is 50% of the image (which of the 3 areas is determined by where the active focus point is). Seems like light or dark backgrounds would throw off the metering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maureen_m Posted April 24, 2004 Share Posted April 24, 2004 oops, forgot the diagram of the metering area... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
picturesque Posted April 25, 2004 Share Posted April 25, 2004 I shot side by side test rolls on my Elan IIe (E-TTL) and RT (TTL/A-TTL), and the RT was consistently well exposed while the Elan IIe was underexposed anywhere from a stop to a stop and a half, even though I was careful about where the focus point ended up (I tried to pick medium-toned areas). The RT has only one focus point, and I thought it was using an averaged flash metering scheme using its five (?) segments, and not the three section pattern that Maureen shows. Maureen, is this right? Or does it use the middle section? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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