margaret_corbett Posted January 13, 2005 Share Posted January 13, 2005 My 300D does not work with the 430EZ Speedlite that I used to use for triggering studio flash lights for film photography. It needs an EX Speedlite. I now have a ST-E2 Speedlite Transmitter, but cannot work out how to set it up to trigger studio flash lights. Is this possible? Any help most welcome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim_larson1 Posted January 13, 2005 Share Posted January 13, 2005 To my knowledge, it is not possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_dunn2 Posted January 13, 2005 Share Posted January 13, 2005 <p>I take it you've tried using the 430EZ with the 300D and it doesn't work? It ought to; non-EX flashes are supposed to work with the 300D, just not with its metering system (so you'd have to set the power output manually on the flash unit).</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brad_w Posted January 13, 2005 Share Posted January 13, 2005 Somebody back me up, but I think the 430 EZ will work in manual mode on the Dreb, no? The ST-E2 emits an IR signal that won't trigger optical studio strobes. It will only trigger the 550EX, 580EX and 420EX speedlights. If I'm correct above, your 430 EZ should trigger the optical slaves. In fact, since it has no ETTL pre-flash it will be better for that purpose than any EX-series flash. -b Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul - Posted January 13, 2005 Share Posted January 13, 2005 From the "Incompatibilities" list at the <a href="http://eosdoc.com/manuals/flash/430ez/#section7">EOS Documentation Project, Speedlite 430EZ:</a><i><br>"E-TTL-only Digital SLR bodies - flash fires only when set to Manual or Multi mode. Flash does not fire in TTL or A-TTL modes."</i><p>In its Manual mode (the flash's Manual mode, not the 300D's), the 430EZ should work for triggering studio slave strobes.<p>I have no idea about the ST-E2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott squire nonfiction Posted January 13, 2005 Share Posted January 13, 2005 You could trigger it if you have a 420EX, 550EX or 580EX, which you could set to act as slave and point at the photocell trigger on any one of your studio strobes, which in turn should fire the strobe and the others. Not that that's exactly elegant. Good luck, and let us know what happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willio Posted January 13, 2005 Share Posted January 13, 2005 I did try to trigger basic studio lights (3-light setup) with a 550ex set as slave from my camera mounted ST-E2, and to my disappointments there are apparent underexposure despite the flash that fires from all 3 lights (one set as master others as slave). I shot in e-TTL mode, and points the 550ex to my subject--as a fill light. I'll perhaps try another setup and see how it works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian_dickman Posted January 13, 2005 Share Posted January 13, 2005 Triggering slaved studio lights from an -EX series flash will NOT work, just as you've described, because the EX fires an ETTL pre-flash which sets off the stobes before the shutter opens. The EZ flash in manual mode should work though, since it doesn't fire a preflash. Just going out and getting any random cheapo older hotshoe flash should work as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian_dickman Posted January 13, 2005 Share Posted January 13, 2005 And fwiw to further qualify, the preflash happens with a slaved -EX flash as well. All EX flashes in the system, masters and slaves, will fire a preflash so the system can meter just before the real exposure. Your studio slaves are triggering off the preflash of the 550 slave, thus underexposing since they go off before the real exposure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dale_hannaford Posted January 13, 2005 Share Posted January 13, 2005 Hi, I have a 20D, ST-E2, 550EX and an old monobloc studio flash. I had the same problem and here is how I solved it. Someone on the internet suggested covering the 4 contacts on the camera hotshoe, mounting the ST-E2 then running the flash on Man. & slave (positioned on light stand). This in turn fires my monobloc, and I meter everything with my L358. Seems to work great. I use strips of red electrical tape (red so I remember that it is there) that are about 1" long and drape the tape down to the viewfinder so that the tape stays in position as I slide the ST-E2 in to place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eosdoc Posted January 13, 2005 Share Posted January 13, 2005 I suggest using some film leader (what's that?) as shown at eosdoc. The slots for the film rails help hold the insulator in place during shooting. See:<BR> <a title= "EOS Documentation Project" href= http://eosdoc.com/manuals.asp?q=EX-M-TTL >http://eosdoc.com/manuals.asp?q=EX-M-TTL</a> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poulbh Posted January 13, 2005 Share Posted January 13, 2005 if you have the FEL hack, do as follows: 1. Studio flashes included in measurement: push the button for FEL, the preflash sets off all flashes, the camera measures the light, wait for the studio flashes to recharge, take the picture. 2. Studio flashes not included in measurement( i.e. if you fire them at full power behind a foto table): Turn off the studio flashes, push the button for FEL, the preflash sets off all any E-TTL flashes, the camera measures the light, turn on the studio flashes and wait for the them to charge, take the picture. Wein makes a slave that should be compatible with E-TTL, but i haven't tried it yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diy photography Posted January 13, 2005 Share Posted January 13, 2005 My experience differs from the above posters. I have a Canon 10 D and a 550 EX flash. Just yesterday I shot several studio shots in manual mode using two el cheapo slaved studio lights and ubrellas. I had no problems at all with underexposure or preflash . Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul - Posted January 14, 2005 Share Posted January 14, 2005 Chris, is that Manual mode on the camera, the flash, or both? There is, of course, no preflash when the flash itself is in Manual mode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willio Posted January 14, 2005 Share Posted January 14, 2005 Thanks for the tricks guys, I guestimated that the e-ttl was the problem, so now we have the solution, I'll go get some work done! :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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