Ricoh GR1

The June 1998 issue of Popular Photography has a comparison test of the Nikon 28Ti, Minolta TC-1 and the Ricoh GR1. The test is comprehensive and comparative in detail. See page 78 of that issue. Bottom line...three superlative lenses. Three superb cameras with the GR1 taking the prize because, "Flexibility, user friendliness, intelligent design have to rank high in any ranking. And here there is a clear winner. The Ricoh GR1 was obviously designed by someone who enjoys taking pictures."

John has written a good review of a good camera. However, all is not perfect. My GR1(which is about 1.25 years old and has had maybe 25 rolls of film through it) broke. I could here the motor turning to advance the film but nothing was happening. From the sound of the motor, which was different from normal, a gear or belt must have broken.

Out of all the cameras Ive ever owned(3 Nikon SLRs, a Mamiya 6, a Pentax 67 and a Canonet), this is the first one thats ever broken. Its at Ricoh now but if it breaks again its getting sold and Im goint to get the Nikon 28ti or 35ti.

I have tested the Ricoh GR-1 against many other point and shoots, such as the Minilux, 35 and 28Ti, Rollei Prego 90, and others. The Richo GR-1 is a very sharp, easy to use camrea, but I noticed that the lens was significantly more magenta than the others. Enough so to bother me. Has anyone else had this problem?

I just bought a GR-1 from B&H. They give you $5 off of 2nd day shipping if you mention that you heard about the discount on their website.

After putting about 6 rolls throught the camera, I like the GR-1, but I wish it had a manual mode, although the spot metering mode is adequate for many tricky situations. Also I wish it indicated shutter speeds lower than 1/30 in the finder (it just flashes "30" for any speeds slower than 1/30). With a 28mm lens conventional wisdom says that lowest handheld speed should be approx 1/30 to avoid camera shake, but it makes a big difference if the slower speed is 1/15 or a full second! With a little care 1/15 is doable, but you never know just how much below 1/30 the camera has selected. As a stop-gap I re-meter the scene with exposure compensation on to see if it is within 2 stops of 1/30, but this is a pain.

Overall, the GR-1 finally gives me the flexibility I had with my Olympus XA 19 years ago, plus auto focus. Oh, B&H sells a "kit" for $15 more that includes a nice leather case, and extended warranty. The leather case has a belt loop and a velcro cover--sort of like a cell-phone holster. This arrangement turned out to be wonderful. I would forget I had the camera with me but I could have it out in a split second. This was even more convenient than having the camera in a pocket.

I got a GR1 recently and love its feel and ergonomics but I find its AF to be a pain. I dont understand the purpose of passive AF in a camera like this. Its a 28mm lens--the best way for the camera to focus on distant objects (out of range of active IR AF, meaning beyond about 20 feet) is to simply set the focus at infinity. Im a bit frustrated with the GR1 because Ive gotten several out-of-focus pictures per roll, and I hardly ever get out-of-focus pictures with an active-AF camera. I can probably do better with the GR1 by being more careful with the AF, and might try that when I get back to the GR1 (right now Im shooting with a Canon Elph Jr.). But point-and-shoots arent supposed to require such care, so the AF is the GR1s main shortcoming. Results otherwise have been excellent.

I took the GR1 with me on a 6 month long trip. This is the only P&S I have owned that can handle slides well. The accuracy of the built in meter was a concern, but turned out to be an unfounded one. I am very impressed by the quality of the lens. I believe one of the reasons for the superior quality of the lens is due to a strange assembly method Ricoh uses. Each lens element is individually measured and graded. Assuring that each lens group assembled is as close to the theoretical design as possible. I am not sure how much of a role the aspheric surfaces play in making this lens so good. Whatever the rewson, the lens is UNBELIEVEABLE. With the new prices hovering around $350, this camera is a steal. I have put over 100 rolls of film into my GR1 and it is still going strong. The magnesium shell is also very forgiving with scratches (silver body). The scratches are initially shiny, then in a few days, they turn darker in color (oxidation) and blend in with the textured surface. Kind of bizzarre but adds to the appeal of the camera. I have used the fixed focus setting quite a few times, this minimizes the time lag, good for timing critical shots. I also love the flash off setting that remains off until I change it. This is an unusual P&S that actually does not assume the user is a moron. The program mode is slightly strange, it does not open up the lens to 2.8 very quickly, instead favouring 4.0 until the eposure times are fairly long. But it is fun to set the F stop manually, I feel more in control of the final result. I wish there was a 90mm. f2.8 version of this little gem. That would be all I need for travelling light.

The GR1s model - modifications to the GR1:

a) the display panel is illuminated in a pleasant shade of green. This function activates when you need it ie. when youfre playing with a setting which doesnft have a dial (the aperture and exposure compensater) or a switch (the flash).

b) the soft case, has a piece of plastic sandwiched in the material where the gon/offh switch rests, when the camera is sitting inside making it difficult to accidentally switch the camera on.

c) filters.When you buy the GR1s you get a lens hood which weighs a few grams. It attaches to the GR1s by way of a few threads on the inside camera lens surround. The filters have normal threading whereas the ring attachment has normal threading (for the filter) and the special thread which matches the one on the inside lip of the lens surround.Threads on the inside of the filters allow them to be attached to one another There are five: 1) MC-1B 2) MC YA2 orange 3) 6X CROSS 4) MC ND4 5) PL polarizing filter.

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I bought a GR1 recently after reading as much about it as I could find. I thought I knew what to expect from the camera, but after the first film I was surprised to discover two things that I have never seen mentioned before.

First is that the metal surrounding the viewfinder eyepiece is very abrasive to plastic spectacle lenses. My coated lenses were badly marked after taking about 20 pictures. I stuck black PVC electrical insulating tape around the eyepiece which stopped the marking but which doesnt improve the appearance of the camera.

Second is the amount of light fall-off in the corners of the pictures. This is the worse I have ever seen on a camera in this price class and it is bad at all apertures. The results I got on slide film when there was blue sky in the picture were just unacceptable. After using a Yashica T4 satisfactorily for several years I was really shocked by these results.

Having said these things I still get a lot of pleasure using the camera. It is wonderfully compact, the lens is sharp, the ergonomics are good and the aperture priority provides the control I missed on the T4.

Ricoh has announced a Ricoh GR21 coming. A GR1 with a 21mmlens, more at: <http://www.ricohcamera.com/gr21eng.htm>

That may be too wide for everyday usage, but it may suite some people..

As a photojournalist, I am quite pleased with a camera i researched through your website, which was the konica hexar. I loved it. I bought the classic version with the silent mode. This feature has been such a benefit in my line of work. I am now looking for another camera which incorporates a wider but just as superb a lense. I have come across this camera in my research: the GR1s seems all I need in given situations, but I would like you to rate the quietness or loudness of the camera in its regular functions. please respond ASAP. I have always come to your site to research, educate myself, and drool over cameras. Please keep up the good work. If any users of this camera have comments, please post or email me...

I just bought a GR1s from Robert White in Feb 01 (plus polarizer and skylight filters). To answer the question, no, this camera isnt silent! Its actually the loudest body I have, and quite a bit louder than the Epic Stylus which has previously served the "carry all the time in my pocket" role. It does pre-wind the film out of the canister, then wind back in as you shoot so theres no sudden prolonged noisy rewinding after you take the last shot on a roll, but I certainly wouldnt rate it as a quiet winding camrea by any means. Having said that, I love it!

This my first P&S camera. Had a long debate over T5 and GR1s. Decided on the T5 as it is so much cheaper, out of production and the superscope. Although I very much would like to have control over exposure, I guess I dont need it for p&s.
But wheh I was at the shop looking at the T5 and GR1s, I immediate fell in love with GR1s. It looks so much better than the T5! And so here I am with the GR1s. (I dont mind getting the T5 later for its sueprscope and 35mm Carl Zeisslens).
I have now shot serveral test rolls of slides. Operation is smooth. Instruction booklet is too brief. Ive managed to have 1 roll processed and am satisfied with the result. The other rolls will provide better pictures to test the quaility of the lens.
The attached file is scanned using HP Photosmart at 2400 dpi. Ive not done any sharpening nor resizing. See the results for yourself.
See my folder for samples pictures taken with the camera.

Dont wait too long to buy that T5 if you are serious. Yashica wont make it much longer.

Also, I have had good results using all but Agfa films in my GR1. The resulting Agfa-based prints come out way too magenta, so I try to use Kodak Royal Gold or BW Select 400+ in the GR1.

My GR1 seems to have broken a gear and does not advance the film. Anyone know where I can send it for repair? I hope the discontinuation of this model (in the U.S. at least) does not mean I cant get it serviced.

I recently took the GR1s and a G1 outfit around the world with me for about 3 months. Personally, I think that the GR1s is best point and shoot camera I have used. The functions is just the right, and everything seems to work wonderfully. The pictures are really very sharp, close to the Zeiss optics. The fall off around the corners, only noticed it in a few photos, maybe 2% or so. But the lens shade will probably help that.

The build quality of the camera is excellent, it has a great feel, a tactile response, and I have heard a story of someone dropping the camera a few times. But again, that is just a story. In my opinion, the GR1 is good because.

• Small, and light.
• Great lens, very little distortion, great colour, and good at controlling flare.
• Handles very well. Can use it all in one hand, quite easily.
• Cheap. You get the highest quality optics, but you dont have to pay Leica or Zeiss prices.
• Aperture priority and spot metering. You probably wont find both of these in some SLRs. Great for controlling exposure, especially with trannies.

The bad things about this camera are its really stupid on and off switch. Why dont they employ one with more positive feedback? Lack of data imprint on the negative. Information such as aperture, exposure compensation and shutter speed. Larger view-finder.

But all in all, the Ricoh is probably a great camera to complement any photographers gear, pro or not. It is a great camera to keep with you are all times. I am looking forward to the GR21, but it was significantly more than the GR1s. My wish is that Ricoh would bring out the the same quality optics in a 50mm version, and may be moderate zoom.

I have had this camera for awhile now, the RICOH GR1s. The first serious shoot out I made was during our honeymoon in Greece at the island of Skithos in June 2000. I used reala and overexposed it for 1/2 step in order to get more punchy pictures. (I usually overexpose by 1/3 of a step with my pro gear, EOS 1N).

I develop it and print it at a AGFA prolab in Stockholm. The result were just astonishing ! Most of the pictures turned out so super sharp even though it is a bit less contrasty than my EF lenses sometimes. "Looks like postcards" as another reviewer once said somewere on the net.

I use CANON L-zooms 28-70 2,8 and 70-200 4,0.The EF 85 1,8 and EF24 mm 2,8 primes and besides from the fact that Canon lenses are sometimes too contrasty for sunny days, the pictures produced with GR1s are just as good as those taken with my EF´s ! I really reccommend it. It is fun to be photographing with this little camera. I feel really enthusiastic when I use it. The flash is ok but not very good. It works best in P-mode in daylight closeups- pictures outside, but then it works VERY good !

Buy it! It is made for serious photographers who knows what they are doing.

Regards Patrik Skolling Möller

I bought my GR1 at B&H photo here in NYC. The first one had a problem with the viewfinder and the second one had a broken flash. Now that I have a working one, Im very happy. Im surprised, though, at the quality control, as I have heard similar stories about GR1s having problems out of the box.

Im glad that I persisted in getting one that works. The pics are extremely sharp (even better that the Yashica T4 that it replaced). I loved the T4, but it died after 10 good years and they stopped making them. I like the manual flexibility of the GR1, the 2.8 lens, and the excellent optics. Everyone that sees the snapshots comment on how sharp and vivid they are. Even when scanned to a computer people have commented about the detail.

I was skeptical about the 28mm as I like to do portraits of friends and the kids. But Ive quickly learned the beauty of "environmental portraiture".

Photo above is on Ilford 125.

Stefan Magnusson, Tribeca, NYC.

I got a GR1V this year and I shoot with it on my business trip. the result is good to excellent. It is just for about 400USD when I bought it in China, the little thing never let me down whenever I take it. The color is fullness,sharp and distinguishable.

One thing I will reminder you: it does not prevent high humidity if you bring it to some rain forest. I found some shadow underneath the LCD display, believed to be made by the high humidity for bad wether last month, when I travelled to Shanghai.

But I have not tried to shoot it with a reversal film, if next week I go to visit Beijing, I will try some rolls.

luck shooting!

I have been using a GR1V for over a year now. Though mechanics and built are fine, some design flaws have led me to dislike it in the end.

1. Viewfinder (if you can call it that) - as an SLR user I find the viewfinder so tiny it takes the pleasure out of taking pictures

2. Exposure - images are on the light side, not good for slide film

3. Film winding is too noisy

4. Flare - at first I thought that the supplied hood was there to give it a more pro look but you have no option but to use it as this lens does show a lot of flare

I used a GR1s for four years and was very happy with it. Small, good lens and top (really top) ergonomics. But it broke: all pictures unsharp due to unexplained mechanical lens error. I did not buy a new lens for it but bought a Leica RE for having a non motorised lens.

Hi, I would just like to ask all the Ricoh GR1/s owners, how? if they wish to set/change the DX coding different from that, that the canister will code(DX), due to the GR1 lacking a manual ISO setting. I know that this can be chnaged on the GR1v, but a little inconvient for all the people who shoot using bulk rolls of film with the GR1s.

All answers greatly appreciated.

thankyou

After reading all I could on the GR1v I recently bought a secondhand one in mint condition. I had high hopes but I have to say that so far I am somewhat disappointed. I agree with all of the negative comments above and I would like to add a couple of my own. Firstly I am annoyed by the 1/250th second top shutter speed in Aperture Priority. True, there is a 500th sec speed, but this is only available in Program mode. This in itself seems crazy, i.e. why cannot this oh-so-useful extra shutter speed be available in AE mode also? I, like many others, shoot mostly ISO 400 neg (Tri X, in my case) and a top speed of 1/250th is distinctly limiting. Secondly, I have serious resrvations about the lens protection blinds which automatically close across the lens when the camera is turned off. Not only do they feel very flimsy (I am reminded of the titanium shutter blinds in my Nikon FM2) but the slightest accidental pressure on them, such as might be caused by slipping the camera into a shirt pocket, results in the blinds partially opening and leaving that famous lens exposed to whatever damage might happen to it. Thirdly, I find the AF simply too crude and dithery. I know this last point has been mentioned before but it seems such a big issue that I feel it merits another minus point. Having said all that, I am used to an Olympus XA, (arguably the most underrated compact ever manufactured) and I know it takes time to adjust to the idiosyncratic foibles of any new camera. There is no doubt that the GR1v is capable of producing excellent results so perhaps it will grow on me.

Alas, my GR1s broke - again! After about 10 years of great service with one previous repair of the viewfinder, which broke in a fall, the lens mechanism did not work 100% anymore. The consequence of this was that the flash would operate its red-eye reduction flashes, but not the main flash. Apart from this, picture quality did not suffer. Inspite of the 250€ price tag for a replacement lens, I am getting it repaired though.

Meanwhile (for lack of qualified personnel, the repair is taking months), I acquired a 2nd hand Minolta TC-1 (for 250€), which was always my dream camera but beyond budget. Now that I have it, I am impressed, but also want my Ricoh back! There is no question about the build and picture quality, but the TC-1 is no match for the convenience of the Ricoh: the latter has automatic flash, a much better viewfinder, Programme aperture, a sensible dial and menu control of the options for spot, flash etc, and the peace of mind of a rewind system (when loaded, the film is loaded fully forward, then each exposure is rewound into the cartridge). The Minolta on the other hand has a much better lens and manual focus (!). The Ricoh lens can give strong deformation in the corners at short range. The Minolta to me is not a true point-and-shoot, requires a minimum of manual operation, e.g. to switch flash modes (always remember to turn off after day-light corrective use), no Programme aperture, no auto flash mode, is heavier and less stable to hold. The focal distance in the viewfinder is hard to read at medium light. Both have spot correction, manual aperture, and red-eye reduction, and are very solid and light-weight.

So for top quality, go Minolta, for convenience and almost same quality, i.e. the best point-and-shoot: go Ricoh (if you can still find either).

Why dont I go digital? There is no digital compact with a good viewfinder that comes close to these, and also: too much convenience spoils the challenge and fun of making a good picture.