Zeiss Tageslicht film: Anyone know how old this roll is?

Discussion in 'Classic Manual Cameras' started by l._david_tomei|1, Jul 15, 2007.

  1. I'm not sure that this is the right forum for this post. I have an unused roll of Zeiss Tageslicht film marked 17/10 DIN Kassettenfüllung. I would guess that it is pre-war daylight 828 or 35mm film but I can find no details regarding Zeiss film produced in the 1930's through 1950's. Any information would be helpful. Thanks. David
  2. very old
  3. This film speed rating (10th?DIN) got out of fashion after the late 50s. OTOH: Isn't Zeiss Ikon a post WW2 corporation?
  4. Tageslicht film is just daylight film. Zeiss Ikon could date back as far as 1926. It's possible the film is rated DIN 17 which would put it at around ASA 50 or slightly lower. Kassettenfullung basically means it's meant to fill a cassette. You'd have to open it up in a darkroom to make any sense of it.
  5. Jochen Schreyphoto.net wrote "Isn't Zeiss Ikon a post WW2 corporation?"

    The "modern" Zeiss Ikon Stiftung (trust) dates from the 1920's.
  6. IT is a very old film that I have seen once when I was small. I don't know the excat date but I can guess it wouls be 1930s products, when rollfilm cameras are very popular.
  7. well, if it says Kassettenfüllung 35mm Cartdriges come to my mind (I tink they were called kassetten in Germany back then). But I didn't know they were sold pre-loaded...
    They type of paper used, the print type and the fact that DIN speed is referred into decimal fraction with a degree (similar to the then popular designation Scheiner Degrees) makes me too think of 1930ies or earlier, although if it is 35mm then it will clearly date as the Contaflex TLR or later! That would be a good marking point.
  8. Thanks. I was told elsewhere that this is an early cassette refill dating from the time of the Contax I introduction. I have no confirmation of this suggestion. There is a lot out there about the cameras and optics but I haven't found anything on Zeiss film production.

  9. L David,

    No new info here, but this info regarding refill for a cassette
    for a 1930s Contax from the early days of 35mm sounds right to me.
    The early Leicas also used cartridges of "Kino" film. You can buy
    reloadable 35mm cartridges. With a changing bag or in a darkroom
    ...theoretically it could be loaded , Maybe Gene M has some tips
    if you'Re interested in exposing the film!
    There was a ASA 10 (Early Kodachrome) but a 17 DIN would be at least a full stop faster ?? I'm not surprised there'S little info on-line.
    I mean really film was like bread was meant to be "consumed"
  10. 17 DIN is about ASA 40 which is rather conservative in todays ISO ratings that are calculated a bit differently.
  11. This is all interesting as heck, but it leaves me with a question--- where did you find the film? Where has it been for the last 30 - 70 years?
  12. errr...found it on (ebay) and I was the only one to bid. The wax paper is as new. I would love to open it and shoot it but then old wine can be wonderful but an old bottle of beer is perhaps best kept unopened.

  13. In case anyone wants to know, ZI was kind enough to confirm that this is a cartridge refill from the 1930's.


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