Troll Posted August 21, 2005 Share Posted August 21, 2005 Are there any comparison test reports on the three 50mm lenses? I've had two Contax IIa's with f:2 Opton Sonnars. both just a little on the soft side, wide open, compared with a Summicron, but otherwise every bit as good. The "Modern Tests" of a prewar f:1.5 Sonnar was dreadful. Have never seen any report of the Tessar, either the prewar f:2.8 or the Opton f:3.5. Thanks, Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard_oleson Posted August 21, 2005 Share Posted August 21, 2005 i haven't seen one. i do have a 50/1.5 opton sonnar that i consider to be an excellent, sharp lens. :)= Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
furcafe Posted August 21, 2005 Share Posted August 21, 2005 I'm also unaware of any test reports, not that I would place much utility in them as there was so much sample variation then, & now as to what you find on eBay, that it's difficult to base an opinion on anything other than actual lenses. FWIW, I have all 3 of the Zeiss-Opton 50s in Contax RF mount (f/1.5 Sonnar, f/2 Sonnar, & f/3.5 Sonnar). In my field use, the f/1.5 & f/2 Sonnars hold their own or beat the contemporary competition in their respective categories, e.g., the f/2 Sonnar v. Leitz "Rigid" & DR Summicrons, Canon f/1.8, TT&H Cooke Amotal 2"/2, Yashica 50/1.8 Yashinon, & f/2 Nikkor-H, f/1.5 Sonnar v. Voigtlander Nokton (Prominent mount) & f/1.4 Nikkor-S, etc., etc. The Nokton does appear to have a slight edge on the f/1.5 Sonnar wide-open, but @ the cost of greater size & weight. I don't have any 1950s-early '60s Tessar competitors except perhaps for the 5cm/2.8 Super Rokkor (not sure about the lens formula, but it may be a Tessar-type), which is pretty good, but certainly not better than the f/3.5 Tessar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
furcafe Posted August 21, 2005 Share Posted August 21, 2005 Oops, that 1st reference to the f/3.5 Sonnar should read "f/3.5 Tessar" of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Posted August 21, 2005 Author Share Posted August 21, 2005 Chris, can you tell any difference between the f:2 and the f:1.5? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
furcafe Posted August 21, 2005 Share Posted August 21, 2005 Not really, except for the f/1.5's extra stop of course. The common wisdom is that the f/1.5 Sonnar should be markedly better than the f/2 Sonnar @ f/2, but I just haven't found that to be the case, @ least to any extent that a difference leaps off of a print or slide, even when scanned @ 4800 dpi (the difference is more visible, IME, w/respect to the f/2 Nikkor-H v. the f/1.4 Nikkor-S, though). This may be because I just lucked out on a great example of the 50/2 Zeiss-Opton Sonnar, of which I only have 1 (in contrast, I have 2 Zeiss-Opton & 2 Carl Zeiss f/1.5 Sonnars & they're all in the same ballpark so I don't think I have any turkeys in that group). However, regardless of any performance difference, I'll normally use a f/1.5 Sonnar just because it's nice to have the extra speed & it isn't significantly heavier than the f/2 version. This may be the reason you really don't see that many post-WWII W. German f/2 Sonnars for sale on eBay. It's more common to see the E. German Jena version in the U.S.--I have 1 that came w/my 1st IIa, but unfortunately it's so scratched up that I can't speak to that version's true quality . . . --------------------- "Chris, can you tell any difference between the f:2 and the f:1.5?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Posted August 21, 2005 Author Share Posted August 21, 2005 Thanks. When they were new, (in the '50s), the "word" was that there was no reason (except money) to buy the cheaper f:2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard_oleson Posted August 22, 2005 Share Posted August 22, 2005 I had a postwar f/2 at one time, but I don't recall its performance in particular. My f/1.5 Opton has impressed me as being sharper and more contrasty than either the prewar f/2 (which would make sense, since that's uncoated) or the Russian Jupiter-8s that I have, which are coated versions of the prewar sonnar..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pensacolaphoto Posted August 22, 2005 Share Posted August 22, 2005 I once sold a Contax with the Sonnar 1.5 for about $200. Now I regret it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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