Greg Fight Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 Question for you Z camera users: I'm doing a time lapse project using the Interval Timer in my Z50 and I wanted to use the built-in flash to trigger remote flashes for a portion of the project. Problem is, you can't turn on the flash when in Interval Timer mode. Am I overlooking something here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike_halliwell Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 I guess that's deliberate to save the tube from busting. However, any small fully manual flash could be popped on the hot shoe at 1/32 power, or the minimum to trigger the slaves. If you have anything like a pair of Yongnou 502n s, it would have the same effect. Then the RF triggered flash could trigger others slaves. I deliberately got 4 x Yongnou 506iii flashes for similar purposes. Late Thought.. I'm guessing the hot shoe is still triggered by the shutter, i suppose it's possible the camera disables that too?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike_halliwell Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 Yongnou 506iii Sorry, typo. Should read 560iii flashes. Fully RF controllable for angular coverage and power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Fight Posted November 23, 2020 Author Share Posted November 23, 2020 Late Thought.. I'm guessing the hot shoe is still triggered by the shutter, i suppose it's possible the camera disables that too?? Yes, the hot shoe is also disabled in Interval Timer mode. I wonder if the same is true on the Z6 and Z7. The flash (built-in or hot shoe mounted) is not disabled on my D300 in Interval Timer mode. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike_halliwell Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 Wow, what a bummer! I'd never come across a disabled hot-shoe...:( I wonder if there's a well hidden menu option somewhere? Maybe near where you might adjust Manual flash power? Don't suppose cameras have a PC socket these days....;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Fight Posted November 26, 2020 Author Share Posted November 26, 2020 Wow, what a bummer! I'd never come across a disabled hot-shoe...:( I wonder if there's a well hidden menu option somewhere? Maybe near where you might adjust Manual flash power? Don't suppose cameras have a PC socket these days....;) Searched the menu high and low. Also tried changing many different settings, all to no avail. And no, there's no PC socket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgelfand Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 I noticed that the Z50 can be controlled from a smart phone. Does the smart phone application, or a third party application, have an interval timer? Nikon Camera Control Pro 2 does have an interval timer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Fight Posted November 27, 2020 Author Share Posted November 27, 2020 I noticed that the Z50 can be controlled from a smart phone. Does the smart phone application, or a third party application, have an interval timer? Nikon Camera Control Pro 2 does have an interval timer. Good call! I'll check the smart phone app. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike_halliwell Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 What socket does the Z50 have for external control? Guess it's not the old 10 pin! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Davies Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 What socket does the Z50 have for external control? Guess it's not the old 10 pin! None of the Zs have the 10 pin, which is a shame. The phone app works reasonably well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodeo_joe1 Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 Should read 560iii flashes. Fully RF controllable for angular coverage and power. They are? Brilliant! I'm regretting buying a set of (comparatively) expensive Godox V860N speedlights now. I can't believe that Nikon have crippled the flash on the Z50 in intervalometer mode though. Oh wait, it's Nikon.... now I believe it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike_halliwell Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 They are? Yup, try one of these.. https://smile.amazon.co.uk/YONGNUO-YN560-TX-Controller-Transmitter-Speedlite/dp/B076KJTD2M/ref=sr_1_2_sspa?dchild=1&keywords=yongnuo+560+tx+ii&qid=1606587375&sr=8-2-spons&psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUFMRDI3WVpYNThDREgmZW5jcnlwdGVkSWQ9QTA2MjI3NjYzVEFYNjJSMEwyOTdZJmVuY3J5cHRlZEFkSWQ9QTA4NjkwMDkyTUhSWU9KQVI5UTc2JndpZGdldE5hbWU9c3BfYXRmJmFjdGlvbj1jbGlja1JlZGlyZWN0JmRvTm90TG9nQ2xpY2s9dHJ1ZQ== Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilkka_nissila Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 The built-in flash can heat up quickly, has a long recycle time and is not intended for continuous / heavy usage. If you have a short interval between shots (< 30 s) probably the built-in flash's condition would prevent the camera from firing after a bit of time. I guess the designers it would be a big hassle to explain all the limitations that the use of the built-in flash would introduce when using the interval timer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike_halliwell Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 is not intended for continuous / heavy usage Definitely true, but why deactivate the hotshoe? I've never met that before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
q.g._de_bakker Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 Maybe it's unintended. Software error. Ask Nikon. They might fix it in a firmware update. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilkka_nissila Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 Definitely true, but why deactivate the hotshoe? I've never met that before. Oh, I didn't realize that was the case also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike_halliwell Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 Oh, I didn't realize that was the case also. Seems that way. Yes, the hot shoe is also disabled in Interval Timer mode. I wonder if the same is true on the Z6 and Z7. The flash (built-in or hot shoe mounted) is not disabled on my D300 in Interval Timer mode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Fight Posted November 30, 2020 Author Share Posted November 30, 2020 What socket does the Z50 have for external control? Guess it's not the old 10 pin! Mike, there is no socket for external control on the Z50. There is an HDMI port, an external mic port, and a USB port for connecting to a computer or recharging the battery in camera. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike_halliwell Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 You mean even the 'old' USB cable remote doesn't work? Oh, what an 'oversight'.....:( LATE EDIT... From here.. https://www.nikonimgsupport.com/eu/BV_article?articleNo=000005458&configured=1&lang=en_GB and here.. Remote Cord MC-DC2 Remote Control Connectivity DSLR Accessories it seems the MC-DC2 is compatible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Fight Posted November 30, 2020 Author Share Posted November 30, 2020 Okay, now I feel foolish. In the Interval Timer submenu there is a Silent Shutter setting that was turned on. The flash, built-in or hot shoe-mounted, won't fire in Silent Shutter mode. Turning Silent Shutter off enables both the built-in flash and hot shoe-mounted flash. I don't know but I would guess the same applies to the Z6 and Z7. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Fight Posted November 30, 2020 Author Share Posted November 30, 2020 LATE EDIT... From here.. https://www.nikonimgsupport.com/eu/BV_article?articleNo=000005458&configured=1&lang=en_GB and here.. Remote Cord MC-DC2 Remote Control Connectivity DSLR Accessories it seems the MC-DC2 is compatible. Mike, I believe the MC-DC2 uses a USB-C connector which is compatible with the Z6 and Z7 but not the Z50, which has micro USB connector. For remote release I use the ML-L7 Bluetooth Remote Control. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike_halliwell Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 EVEN LATER EDIT.!! You're right the Z50 isn't listed. Maybe worth a try. It seems a very stupid thing to cripple. Final Edit! Well found! I wonder if a mini > micro adapter would work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike_halliwell Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 MC-DC2 uses a USB-C Really? I know the MC-DC2 is quoted as fitting the Z6., which has USB-C, but it has that bizarre connector... the USB-mini B. How's that work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike_halliwell Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 Really? I know the MC-DC2 is quoted as fitting the Z6., which has USB-C, but it has that bizarre connector... the USB-mini B. How's that work? Ah, I see. The Z6 and Z7 have both USB sockets available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodeo_joe1 Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 Okay, now I feel foolish. In the Interval Timer submenu there is a Silent Shutter setting that was turned on. The flash, built-in or hot shoe-mounted, won't fire in Silent Shutter mode. Don't feel too foolish. The 'No flash-synch in quiet mode' caught me out on a Sony camera too. It appears it's a common thing across all brands. Although equating 'quiet' with totally sneaky and visually non-intrusive is a bit OTT in most cases. It would be nice if there was an option to mute the shutter without blindfolding the flash too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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