wingell Posted May 16, 2007 Share Posted May 16, 2007 Three years ago I posted a shot of two young boys swimming in an open storm drain in Philadelphia's Fishtown section back in 1968. It's in my black&white "street shots" folder. I've just received a letter from the EPA in Washington asking for a license to use the image in a publication dealing with land use and water quality! Of course, they want to know if I have model releases. When I took that shot in my North Philadelphia wanderings 40 years ago, I somehow neglected to get those releases, and it's probably going to be pretty difficult to find the subjects now. In any event, I'm going to give the agency a call--I'm really curious how they came across the image. Like I said, you never know when it comes to photo.net. Cheers...Bill<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaelging Posted May 16, 2007 Share Posted May 16, 2007 Its a great photo Bill. I would not even mind, if some of my tax money was diverted from Iraq, and sent to the EPA to help pay you for the photo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wingell Posted May 16, 2007 Author Share Posted May 16, 2007 Thanks for the kind words, Michael--I really appreciate the thought. Regards...Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orvillerobertson Posted May 17, 2007 Share Posted May 17, 2007 Since it will be used in an editorial context rather than an advertising context I doubt if you'll need a model release. Check with a good lawyer first of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uhooru Posted May 17, 2007 Share Posted May 17, 2007 Yeah, you might want to check that out. Congrats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael s. Posted May 17, 2007 Share Posted May 17, 2007 That is a very good one, Bill. Way to go ! Funny to think that the two guys pictured are now in their mid 40's, give or take. And that would put you in your early 50's, right Bill ? :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sknowles Posted May 17, 2007 Share Posted May 17, 2007 <p>If you give the federal agency license, they have control over the use of the image in their work, but you can stipulate it can't be used outside of official publications or their Website. And ensure they cite the photographer so that anyone who sees it can't use it as part of the public domain. <p>I was asked by the Department of Interior for use of <a href="http://www.photo.net/ photodb/photo?photo_id=195821">my photo</a> after it was awarded third place overall in the 150th Anniversary photo contest. I agreed as long as I was cited with the standard photo citiation, "Photo courtesty of ..." or some such language. <p>Good luck. It only takes a letter from you to agree with the standard conditions. But remember the photo may end up without your name in some government portfolio and in the public domain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert_m_johnson Posted May 17, 2007 Share Posted May 17, 2007 Way to go Bill! :-) Been in Worcester lately? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john_elder1 Posted May 17, 2007 Share Posted May 17, 2007 Hey! I finally found a great shot of my 2 kids. No problem with the model release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wingell Posted May 17, 2007 Author Share Posted May 17, 2007 Thanks, everyone, for the comments and advice. I spoke today to the EPA representative who inquired about the photo, and she was adamant about their needing releases for use of the image. On the other hand, a metro photo editor I do some work for at a large metropolitan paper states she "can't imagine" why they need a release: "Street photographs do not require releases for editorial purposes," she insists. I'm going to call the EPA again but I think they'll refuse to budge on the matter. (My former Philly studio partner tells me he'll sign a release for one of the kids if someone else signs for the other boy. He also suggests the city should go around removing grates on all the storm drains as a cheap summer recreational program.) By the way, as I suspected, the EPA rep found the image on Google. A new algorithm --or something--is turning up loads of my old photo.net postings. And you're right about the age thing, Michael--I've been getting younger for years! Cheers...Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanky Posted May 18, 2007 Share Posted May 18, 2007 Gasp!!! You took a picture of TWO shirtless boys??? Quick! Everyone jump on the paranoia express. Just kidding of course...Great shot Bill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex_Es Posted May 24, 2007 Share Posted May 24, 2007 That is a very good shot, Bill. Model releases at this point? I wonder if that is really necessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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