james_taylor11 Posted October 15, 2007 Share Posted October 15, 2007 Would the 10-22 ef-s or 15 fisheye have a wider view on a 20D? Thanks, James Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterlyons Posted October 15, 2007 Share Posted October 15, 2007 The 10-22 will be wider, at the wide end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rainer_t Posted October 15, 2007 Share Posted October 15, 2007 What Peter said ... also see ... http://www.photo.net/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=00KXmV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notraces Posted October 15, 2007 Share Posted October 15, 2007 The 10-22 is wonderful on the 20D -- the fisheye is best used on full frame cameras... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keith_lubow Posted October 15, 2007 Share Posted October 15, 2007 Widest lens on 20D...rectilinear or fisheye? If you want a fisheye, you could rent one of the insanely short Nikon circular fisheyes and adapt it to the camera. Otherwise, you can get the 35mm equivalent angle of view of a 16mm lens by using the 10-22 zoom. Keith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobatkins Posted October 15, 2007 Share Posted October 15, 2007 The widest lens is the 8mm circular fisheye from Peleng (see http://www.bobatkins.com/photography/reviews/wide-angle-lenses-2.html). The 10mm end of the 10-22 is wider than a 15/16mm full frame fisheye. Formulae for calculating field of view of both rectilinear and fisheye lenses are given here http://www.bobatkins.com/photography/technical/field_of_view.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDMvW Posted October 15, 2007 Share Posted October 15, 2007 Here is a current Nikon fisheye picture taken on a 20D. It works. However, I bought a Spiratone (aka Kenko, Samigon) screw on 0.16X adapter and it works OK, not spectacularly. I also have had two Spiratone T-mount 7mm fisheye (Sorry, Bob, that is shorter than the Peleng, but you're right, so far as I know for current lenses), but neither has been sharp on the Canon with a EOS T-mount adapter<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDMvW Posted October 15, 2007 Share Posted October 15, 2007 Here is a shot taken just now in my backyard with a Samigon (aka Spiratone, Kenko) 0.16X adapter mounted on front of the Canon EF 35mm f/2.0 lens. Theoretically, this should be the equivalent of a 5.6mm lens. It's good enough for playing around, but perhaps not for really serious use.<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobatkins Posted October 15, 2007 Share Posted October 15, 2007 I wouldn't take that 0.16x too literally. Assuming a 24mm image circle, a 5.6mm fisheye would have a field of view of around 245 degrees, i.e. it would see behind the camera. While technically possible, it would need a huge front element the size of a dinner plate that bulged way out from the front of the lens!<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDMvW Posted October 15, 2007 Share Posted October 15, 2007 You'll notice, I did say "theoretically" and it's very clear that my feet aren't in the picture.;) Here's what the Samigon looks like.<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rainer_t Posted October 16, 2007 Share Posted October 16, 2007 Pictures of the same scene (taken with the Peleng 8mm and the EFS 10-22 at 10mm) can be found at the end of thread ... http://www.photo.net/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=00LUst My personal experience with placing a 0.39x adapter on a the kitlens (and use it at 18mm thereby resulting in 7mm too) is that the Peleng is a tad wider ... the 0.39x + 18mm kit seems not to cover the imagecircle that a 7mm lens should cover 'theoretically'. Also, imagequality at the border was very poor (Not that the Peleng is great at the border). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james_taylor11 Posted October 16, 2007 Author Share Posted October 16, 2007 Thanks so much for the information! I apologize for not being more specific in my question. I have the 15mm fisheye and used it recently to take a self portrait while cycling. I wanted a little wider view, so I thought I would ask to see if the 10-22 would give me a wider view. It sounds like from the responses it would. However, now I?m thinking I would be better off picking up a film rebel (probably used around a 100.00) and just mount my fisheye to that. Thanks again, James<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDMvW Posted October 16, 2007 Share Posted October 16, 2007 You can get some of the earlier film EOS cameras incredibly cheaply. The first EOS (film) cameras were the 650 and the 620--I've bought three of them for film backup and they all work. Less than $30 apiece. Also got a lovely fully functional EOS 5 camera (the one with the eye controlled focus) for not much more. Film is dead. Long live film! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDMvW Posted October 16, 2007 Share Posted October 16, 2007 Maybe I should follow in the footsteps of the Lomography movement, and start a "Spirography" movement dedicated to taking atmospheric and ill-defined images with old Spiratone fisheyes? Remember, you saw it here first!<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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