gary_griffin Posted November 28, 2003 Share Posted November 28, 2003 To all: I am a beginning photo student who is about to take an artificial light class and I am looking at purchasing a set of lights. After perusing that famous auction site, I have it narrowed down to two sets. One is a set of four Britek lights 480ws. The second is a set of four HKS lights 400ws. The Britek set has a few more odds and ends with it,two more umbrellas, carrying case than the HKS set. But the HKS lights have built in optical slaves that can be fired by my on camera flash. I have not been able to find if the Britek lights have this feature or not. This one extra the HKS lights have has me leaning to wards them. I would like your feedback on either of these light systems please. I forgot to add that I am on a limited budget of $500 so that is why I looked at these sets. Thanks in advance for the help Gary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maury_cohen Posted November 28, 2003 Share Posted November 28, 2003 I'm not familiar with either set, but I'd figure that the 80ws aren't going to make a big difference. If either set have modeling lights that would add much more usefulness at your stage of ability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlatling Posted November 29, 2003 Share Posted November 29, 2003 Before you jump onto (shudder) Britek lights, take a gander at Alien Bees. Ten times the quality for just slightly more money. You will be limited severely by some 20,000 or 30,000 flashes with no real option to replace your lamps cheaply with the britek, whereas the Bees will give you something like 250,000 flashes and an easy, inexpensive way to replace lamps when they go. I'm not too sure about any of those figures, but it is substantually better with the Bees. Don't get Britook! I don't know anything about the other lights. I bought my bees about two years ago and just love them. Also, they are made in America and the company is easy to work with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuck_dowling Posted November 29, 2003 Share Posted November 29, 2003 I don't and have never owned Britek lights, but research I have done indicates that they are crap, and break down after a short while. Alien Bees and the "big brother" White Lighting monolights are what you want. I use White Lightning lights all the time, they are awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinconnery Posted November 29, 2003 Share Posted November 29, 2003 Unless you are required to have the lights BEFORE you take the class, I'd strongly recommend waiting. A little experience and guidance with how they're used can make a world of difference in knowing what's a better choice for you.<p> Also, check out the article on <a href="http://www.photo.net/learn/studiolighting/">Choosing Studio Lights</a>; it discusses some things you'll want to consider before making your decision.<p> There aren't many BAD lighting systems, but the likelihood of getting one does, sadly increase as the price falls--the very inexpenive systems often have significant consistency and reliability issues Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gary_griffin Posted November 29, 2003 Author Share Posted November 29, 2003 Thanks for the helpful info. Kevin, I don't have to have these before the class but the better half as allocated money for them, so that is why I was trying to find a decent brand to get started with :). I have checked out the Alien Bee website and I have one new question. How much would I be hurting myself if I got the package of two B400 lamps as opposed to trying to save the money for little while and get two B800's. Thanks again for all the help GRY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skipd Posted November 30, 2003 Share Posted November 30, 2003 Gary, the only down side of going for the B400's is that you might want more power for larger group portraits, etc. However, there's not a thing in the world wrong with them for more close-in work. You'll want light stands and some reflector/diffuser devices like umbrellas to start with. However, if you're on a really tight budget, you can manufacture things that will do for a while. The Alien Bees (and most other monolights) will clamp to the end of a rod that's up to 5/8" in diameter. You could, for example, make a serviceable light stand out of ordinary surplus building materials like 2x4's, pipe or electrical conduit, and a piece of 5/8" dowel for the flash unit to fasten to. Reflective umbrellas are extremely convenient but a little harder to make. There are some fairly inexpensive umbrellas available. Possibly you could build some portable white reflector panels to use in the beginning. PVC pipe and a good clean surplus bed sheet come to mind for materials. Even if you got the umbrellas, the reflectors would be very useful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wayne_seanard Posted December 1, 2003 Share Posted December 1, 2003 The Alien Bees are a great choice. White Styrephome works for reflectors if were're going low budget. Try to swing the 800s and what ever you get can be used for backdrop lights when you move up in the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gary_griffin Posted December 5, 2003 Author Share Posted December 5, 2003 Just wanted all of you to know that I recieved my bee's today. Hopefully I will have some shots posted soon for everyone to see! Thanks again to everyone for the advice Gary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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