jodie_chapman2 Posted November 24, 2010 Share Posted November 24, 2010 <p>Hi there,<br> I have a Nikon F90x (known as N90s in the states) body that I would really like to buy lenses for. I shoot with prime lens for my professional work (digital Canon user) and love the glass quality and shallow dof I can achieve with these lenses.<br> Could anyone recommend which <strong>50mm</strong> and <strong>35mm</strong> lenses I should get? I don't have a massive budget, so would be looking to spend around the £100 mark per lens, although if there is a superior lens for a little over, that's fine. I mainly work in <strong>manual </strong>or <strong>aperture-priority</strong> modes, so a lens that allows me to use these modes would be ideal. I am happy with manual focusing but would like to have <strong>autofocus</strong> too if possible.<br> Thanks in advance for any help you can give me!</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kam_kozalak Posted November 24, 2010 Share Posted November 24, 2010 <p>The most obvious answer would be 50/1.8 and 35/2, both AF. They should add up to $475 and be 50% above your budget. Used 35mm lenses may be vailable, however.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mervyn_wilmington Posted November 24, 2010 Share Posted November 24, 2010 <p>I have used 50mm a/f f1.8 lenses on f801s, f4 and f90x cameras. They have always performed superbly. Good used ones can be found from around 60gbp upwards, and new they are not a fortune. I can say no more.............</p> <p>Mervyn</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jodie_chapman2 Posted November 24, 2010 Author Share Posted November 24, 2010 <p>Thanks Kam and Mervyn for your replies.<br> Mervyn - are the 50mm 1.8 AF lenses intended for digital? ie Are they brand new? Do you have to do anything extra to make them work on the F90x, or do they fit on straight away? Thanks.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mervyn_wilmington Posted November 24, 2010 Share Posted November 24, 2010 <p>The 50mm f1.8 a/f lenses will go straight onto an F90x and work like magic. I have that very combination on the top of our piano now - with several other Nikon cameras! Whilst there is current debate about how well particular lenses perform on film/digital, I don't believe that is an issue with the 50mm f1.8 a/f.</p> <p>You might usefully have a look on UK ebay. The 50mm comes-up quite often, but, obviously read the description very carefully and check the feedback of the seller. I bought one of my 50mm lenses on ebay - it was like new. The other - from a dealer - was in a similar condition. Both were around 60gbp. </p> <p>Used ones are not too easy to find from dealers. However, a web search - and for new ones - might be worthwhile.</p> <p>Mervyn</p> <p> </p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jose_angel Posted November 24, 2010 Share Posted November 24, 2010 <p>Jodie, this lenses are pre-digital designs, hence not intended to be used with digital cameras; the only 35 and 50mm primes designed for digital use are the current "G" versions, which doesn`t have aperture ring, hence not usable on your camera unless in P or S mode. M and A will work <em>only</em> at their smallest aperture. Anyway, this pre-digital designs show a reasonably good performance on current digital cameras.</p> <p>If you want full specs go for the AF-<strong>D</strong> versions that take advantage of the 3-D metering feature in the your camera. Any AF non-<strong>D</strong> version will work perfectly fine too, although Matrix metering will be limited to the "non 3-D" mode (a negligible loss for most users).</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jodie_chapman2 Posted November 24, 2010 Author Share Posted November 24, 2010 <p>Thanks for your response! Jose, thanks for your comment ~ I don't want to use it on a digital camera though. The F90x is a film SLR. I was just worried that if the lens was intended for digital, it might not work immediately on my F90x, but Mervyn has cleared that up for me. :)</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red_buckner Posted November 24, 2010 Share Posted November 24, 2010 <p>I have a 50mm 1.8 AFS-D. It works great on my F90x, meshing with autofocus and autoexposure seamlessly. These lenses are so inexpensive when new that it makes no sense to get one used. They go for about $115 new! Some people swear this is Nikon's sharpest lens. I don't know about that, but it is startlingly sharp with nice bokeh and fast AF. Do some research on the 35mm lens. The f2.0 gets mixed reviews. The f1.4 is praised, but is costly. There has to be another option. </p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mervyn_wilmington Posted November 24, 2010 Share Posted November 24, 2010 <p>In response to Red's posting, the cheapest 50mm I could find was at Amazon - 91gbp.</p> <p>It depends on how much cash Jodie has to buy the two lenses. I haven't checked 35mm lenses, but I suspect they will be rather more expensive. Jodie will also need to make sure she is looking at FX versions. </p> <p> </p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rossb Posted November 24, 2010 Share Posted November 24, 2010 <p>From a budget standpoint the 50mm f1.8 Nikon "D" lens. The are roughly about $130.00 for a new one. Cheap plastic and disappointing construction but the optics are very good. Remember the price is low and you do not get rock solid lenses for that price range. I have one and it will work properly on your N90. You can also use manual focus AIS lenses if you wanted to. I always have the 50mm in my bag. I use it on all my camera's. N80, FM2n, D200. It will work properly on any Nikon AF film camera.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mervyn_wilmington Posted November 24, 2010 Share Posted November 24, 2010 <p>Jodie may be confused about the "D" lens.</p> <p>As I understand it, those lenses deal better with flash pictures, although I've never had a problem with the pre-D ones. The latter are also rather better made.</p> <p> </p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenfretz Posted November 24, 2010 Share Posted November 24, 2010 <p>jodie –<br> <br />First a comment: There is no such thing as a “digital” lens. All lenses exist here in the analog world. Nikon does make lenses that only have good coverage of DX (half frame) sensors. Except for one kit lens I don’t own any. I want to be able to use my lenses on FX (full frame) bodies also.<br> <br />My suggestion: I use the Series E 35mm f2.5 and 50mm f1.9 lens on my F3, F5, D1 and D70 bodies. I’m an old-timer who still likes to control the focus and exposure myself. I have found both of these great performers, compact and if necessary, based on their replacement cost on eBay, expendable.<br> <br />Ken Fretz<br /><br /></p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter_eisenburger Posted November 24, 2010 Share Posted November 24, 2010 <p>"this lenses (50 mm / 1.8 AF) are pre-digital designs, hence not intended to be used with digital cameras"<br> no. I used this nice lens on my F80 and now on my D90 w/o any restrictions. AF lenses like this one are perfectly alright for Nikon DSLR like D90, D7000 etc.<br> however, if I was to buy a new lens for a DX format, I would buy a DX lens in most cases - except if wanted to return to digital FX format in the near future.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShunCheung Posted November 24, 2010 Share Posted November 24, 2010 <blockquote> <p>I shoot with prime lens for my professional work (digital Canon user)</p> </blockquote> <p>Jodie, in your situation wouldn't it be a lot simplier to buy a Canon EOS film body that can share your Canon lenses? (Unless your Canon lenses are mostly EF-S; in that case you are out of luck.)</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jose_angel Posted November 24, 2010 Share Posted November 24, 2010 <p>Peter, the 50/1.8AF is a middle eighties release (probably still an optical design from the seventies). Then I bet this lens was <em>not intended to be used with digital cameras. </em>The development of the D1 started in 1996, almost ten years later. Don`t know about Kodak DSLRs in "F" mount, maybe a bit earlier.<br /> <br /> As you mention, can be used, and with a good performance level, on many cameras.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mervyn_wilmington Posted November 24, 2010 Share Posted November 24, 2010 <p>Jodie,</p> <p>I fear this is getting rather complicated in relation to the question you asked.</p> <p>Subject to the valid point made by Shun, I would get a 50mm a/f f1.8 Nikon lens, either new or good used. See how you get on, and then look for a 35mm one.</p> <p>Mervyn</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owen_omeara Posted November 24, 2010 Share Posted November 24, 2010 <p>The 50mm. f/1.4 D is the sharpest lens that I own. It is a bit more expensive than the 1.8 but it is a killer lens with a great build.</p> <p>-Owen</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jodie_chapman2 Posted November 24, 2010 Author Share Posted November 24, 2010 <p>Thanks everybody for all your help. I've gone for the 50mm 1.8 for £90 and am going to see how I get on. If I find the plastic build frustrating or if my budget increases, I will look to maybe get the 1.4. I love shallow dof, so the extra stop is tempting (though probably unnecessary!)<br> Shun - that would make sense, only my dad gave me the Nikon F90x body as a present (he had two), and I had already got a lot of Canon kit. I've shot the F90x a few times with his lenses and I just love the way the camera handles, so that's why I want to build up a few Nikon lenses. It's unlikely I will use it for anything other than personal work, which is why I need to keep my budget low. I've also just bought myself a large format camera and am heading to Scotland next month to learn about wet plate collodion, so I have lots to pay for!<br> Thanks again for everybody's help. Much appreciated.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hugo_laporte Posted November 24, 2010 Share Posted November 24, 2010 <p>The AF 35mm f/2.0 has been my favourite lens so far, very sharp and overall good image quality. The manual focus works like a dream, and the lens is very small, which is great. You might be able to find one used for 200$ or less.<br> The AF 50 f/1.8 is great also, but IQ degrades really fast in the sides/corner (my sample, at least). It works amazingly on DX, but for 35mm, I would suggest either a 50 1.4, or the 85 1.8.<br> Here are some samples of the 35 f/2 (most of the most recent images are taken with it): http://www.flickr.com/photos/hugolaporte/</p> <p>Hope this helps</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jodie_chapman2 Posted November 26, 2010 Author Share Posted November 26, 2010 <p>Hi all,</p> <p>I went for the 50mm 1.8 D AF lens in the end, which arrived today. The only thing is that I am having trouble attaching it to the camera body. I am putting the aperture index spot on to match the body, then turning anti-clockwise (as per the manual), but it certainly isn't clicking into place and isn't firmly on. The problem is that I can't turn it anymore. I know the lens isn't weather-sealed, but I can clearly see the silver mounting ring on the body. When I turn the camera on, it flashes the two "><" (which usually means it can't autofocus & needs to be manual focus), plus looking through the viewfinder is completely dark, plus if I change the aperture by turning the lens, it just brings the lens straight off the camera. It definitely doesn't seem to be working on the camera!!</p> <p>Any idea? It's driving me mad and I'm desperate to get started!</p> <p>Thanks.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mervyn_wilmington Posted November 26, 2010 Share Posted November 26, 2010 <p>Jodie,</p> <p>Forgive me for stating the obvious, but the plate of the lens flange and the plate of the body flange should be in contact before you turn the lens anti-clockwise when you are looking at the camera from the front. Are you saying that the lens is not going into the throat of the body enough for that to happen?</p> <p>I've been putting lenses on to Nikon bodies for more years that I can remember, and I can't recall that sort of problem provided the body spots/marks are aligned. It sounds as though you are not getting to the two plates into contact before you turn the lens anti-clockwise.</p> <p>Might it be possible to load a couple of digis to show us what is happening?</p> <p>Whatever you do, don't force anything! Lenses don't need that when being put on or removed.</p> <p>Mervyn</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mervyn_wilmington Posted November 26, 2010 Share Posted November 26, 2010 <p>Jodie,</p> <p>I think you are in the UK. If you get stuck, feel free to phone me and I'll try to take you through it.</p> <p>01969 623502.</p> <p>Mervyn</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jodie_chapman2 Posted November 27, 2010 Author Share Posted November 27, 2010 <p>Hi Mervyn,</p> <p>Thanks so much for your response.</p> <p>I am wondering if it's something to do with me, as Google isn't throwing up any solution so it looks like I'm the only one who's ever experienced this! The thing is, I have attached lenses to the F90x and an old D50 before, plus I am a photographer so know how to use a camera!</p> <p>I've attached a few images to show what it looks like. I put the marks on the mount together (image 1) and then turn anti-clockwise, but there is no click and the lens doesn't seem to want to turn so that the mark is heading straight up (image 2). It's more of a 1 o'clock (if I'm looking at the camera front on). Also, you can see from the pictures (image 3) that the metal mount of the camera body is clearly visible, even though the lens is "on". I am guessing that isn't right? I know it's not weather-sealed, but all kinds of dust could get through that far too easily.</p> <p>Also, even though the camera isn't on manual focus (and is in aperture priority), the lens isn't adjusting for focus at all.</p> <p>The viewfinder got brighter the wider I made the aperture. Kinda obvious I know.</p> <p>Thanks again! It's driving me nuts.</p><div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jodie_chapman2 Posted November 27, 2010 Author Share Posted November 27, 2010 <p>here is image 2</p><div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jodie_chapman2 Posted November 27, 2010 Author Share Posted November 27, 2010 <p>and image 3</p><div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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