Which modern lens for a 12x20?

Discussion in 'Large Format' started by jorge_gasteazoro|4, Mar 18, 2002.

  1. Ok, I checked the archives and Carl Weese said the 355 Schneider G Claron will work, other sources on that same thread said a Nikon 450 would cover it. How about the Rodenstock Apo ronar, Armin was asking about? has anybody used this lens with a 12x20? I am looking to upgrade my lens and would like the opinion of the forum. Thanks all!
    I know the Apo Ronar has an image circle diameter of 323 at f/22 but does the image circle will be big enough at f/45? by my calculations the diagonal of a 12 x20 is 496 mm, so I need a whole lot more than the lens seems to be able to provide.
     
  2. Jorge,
    The diagonal for 12x20 is much larger than you state. It's 593mm to
    just cover. As for Ronars, my 480mm Ronar just barely covers 8x20.
    It's a touch soft at the corners even at f90. So a 480 Ronar would
    not fully cover 12x20.

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    I'll be watching the this thread because I'm interested to hear (from
    personal experience) what the limits of coverage are for the Fuji
    450C f12.5, in a copal 1 (!). I think it might cover ULF like the
    Nikon 450M is reputed to.

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    Linas
     
  3. ah yes Linas, forgot to carry the one...lol..you are correct it is
    593 mm, so I guess it is even worse for the apo ronar...pity I really
    wanted that lens....I guess it will have to be the Nikon, unless
    someone has a better idea. I thought about the Fujinons, but way too
    much money....for an extra $1000 I can buy both the Nikon and the Apo
    ronar....
     
  4. Jorge,

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    I don't know if the Fuji 450C f12.5 is suitable for 12x20, but it
    costs less than the Nikon 450M. At least that's what I saw at
    www.badgergraphic.com a while back. This together with the incredibly
    small size has me very curious about the Fuji 450C.
     
  5. they are kind of big, but I have a 24 inch and a 32 inch apo ronar
    that I bet would cover.

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    Kevin
     
  6. Linas, I guess you were looking at the Fujinon 450 compact, that one
    is $30 cheaper than the Nikkor, but the one I was looking was the CMW
    450, which does cover 12x20, but is worth $2225! way out of my
    league........
     
  7. Jorge:
    Do a search on Ebay. I saw a 19 inch Dagor being auctioned that by
    my old literature will cover 17 x 21 at f16 and 22x26! at f45.
    Best,
    Tom Keenan
     
  8. Thanks Tom, I guess anything over 16.5 in on the red dot dagors will
    cover but I want something with a shutter, etc. I know, I know I can
    send it to Mr. Grimes and have him fit the barrel lens on a shutter,
    but I just want something hassle free for now.
     
  9. the fuji 600 covers but the 450 12.5 fuji does not cover. IF you
    could find a 300SW 9.0 fuji that would cover!!! It has to be the
    Super Wide 300 not just the W. The front element is about 135mm. The
    600 Fuji is really sharp!!!
     
  10. Don't give up on the Gold Dot Dagors.Most of them are in shutters
    that I have seem.The Red Dot Artars were designed as process lenses
    and many of them especially the longer ones ane in barrel.
     
  11. You may want to check with Midwest Photo Exchange. They have several
    Fuji lenses listed, both new and used. Prices are well below Badgers
    prices, and service is excellent. Mpex.com The phone number is shown
    on the website. Ask for Jim. He is very knowledgable.
     
  12. I bought my Fuji 11.5 600C for about $1000 on E-bay. It sold new for
    $1750 at one point, but the Yen is quite weak against the $ now, and
    I have seen prices at least $200-300 lower than this recently
    (Midwest photo?) I bring this up because this is just about the only
    modern lens which will unambiguously cover 12X20 at infinity without
    stopping WAAAAAY down. Plus, it's quite small and light, and a very
    nice focal length to have in this format. I use it as my normal lens
    for 90% of my shots, mostly full-length portraits, and also have a 19
    in Dagor, 360 Nikkor W and Super Symmmar 210 XL, all of which will
    more (the Dagor) or less (the Nikon) cover. The Fuji is a great
    lens, and if $ is a concern, it might be worth watching E-Bay and the
    yen rates.

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    Good luck,

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    Nathan
     

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