jeff_walsh Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 I'm in the market to purchase a Holga camera. Any suggestions as to which model (CFN, GCFN, FN etc...), where I should buy it and about how much I should pay? I've done a little research and I know the S model was replaced by the N model, but would I be better off with the Flash model, the colored flash model or the Glass lens model? I want my options to experiment with the camera to be open an available but I also don't want to get the flash model if its completely useless. Thanks in advance for your answers and responses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
400bpm Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 Get the cheapest one you can find. A big part of peoples' fondness for the Holga look comes from the soft abberrations made with that dinky plastic lens. Don't waste money on the built-in flash - the lowest-end model has a hotshoe that works well and any $2 junk-bin Speedlite will work better than the in-camera flash.<p> I love mine, and even though I rarely use it anymore, it's a great little camera. I fully recommend hacking up the mask to make a 6x6, and don't recommend omitting the mask altogether. Enjoy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kedk Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 Buy any one you want, but I think less is more. I have the flash only unit (FN? i cant remember) which I bought on Amazon for 16$? and it's the best plastic toy camera I've ever touched. The more base unit, the cheaper and funner to experiment with. Glass lens seems moot in a thing like this. I have heard mixed results with it. After all, super sharp images really shouldnt come from this baby. Have fun, buy cheap, it probably won't be your last one and all are different. My flash unit comes in handy. Most units dont have a flash shoe or tripod mount (easy to make) or even a B setting. Get gel samples instead of the CFN. I made beautifully grainy 30" prints from Ilford 3200 and exhibited them with artsy bliss because it was for me, not to explore the sharpness of the lens or the diffusion range of the blah blah blah. Have fun!<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randall ellis Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 I would avoid the flash units. The flash will provide no useful function that could not be beter controlled with an external flash, and it will raise the cost. The new cameras come with the 6x6 mask so you don't have to hack up the 6x4.5 mask. The glass lens model (Woca) is not as funky as the original so if you want the really classic 'Holga' shots, stick with the S. If you want a little less Holga, go with the glass lens Woca. - Randy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephen hazelton Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 I've got a glass-lens model and really can't tell the difference in the photos. I've read that with the flash models, you can't remove the film mask (which I don't necessarily recommend anyway). Anyway, if you have a manual hot-shoe flash, you don't need the flash on the Holga. I'd go with the basic Holga, no flash, no colory stuff. Buy at Freestyle, www.freestylephoto.biz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phule Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 I'd buy the holga from http://holgamods.com You'll get 2 usable apertures, interior flocking, and closer focusing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce levy Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 At the prices they sell at, why not buy one of each? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe tarrant Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 The dearest one is always best. That's why you should buy a Leic... Oops, sorry, wrong forum. I have the CFN (coloured flash model with the filter pack). I have a photo of it on my new <A HREF="http://6cmx6cm.blogspot.com/">toy camera blog</A>. Ahem. I've never used the flash but it could save a photo, I guess. I'm keen to use the filters however - small pack of the usual colours and a small pack of semi-opaque filters with a clear centre, just in case you get a lens that's too sharp for your liking. I'm inclined to feel that the flash isn't that useful but the filters could be, either for the usual black and white work or just because it's a way to vary the exposure a bit. You can bracket a photo by using a filter and then not using a filter. I suppose using flash would bracket in the other direction. That's a thought, actually... But as someone said above, any cheapo secondhand flash would work as well. In sum, I don't think it really matters, so long as the shutter works and you remember to put film in and take the lens cap off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ted_chambers Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 I'd recommend going to Holgamods as well. The extra $5 buys a few goodies. Also get the velcro strips that he sells to keep the back in place. The back clamps fall apart almost immediately, so you'll need the velcro to keep it tight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
todd frederick Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 HolgaMods is the best IMO. These are also wonderful in color. http://holgamods.com<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephen hazelton Posted February 3, 2006 Share Posted February 3, 2006 Good reminder, there. Holgamods has a "User Manual" for Holgas. Freestyle has a different "User Manual" for Holgas. Read them both, good information there. These things do change some as they go along. Choice of film mask, for example. Or foamy stuff to tighten up film spool (Woca had it, Holga didn't when I bought mine). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wickedmartini Posted February 3, 2006 Share Posted February 3, 2006 Am I the only one that like the Holga with flash? Where is the love? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeff_walsh Posted February 3, 2006 Author Share Posted February 3, 2006 Thanks for everyones input! It helped immensely in my descision. After researching the various mentioned websites, it looks like Holgamods will soon be getting my business. You can't beat the price for the simple modifications that make sense without altering the camera's characteristics. Again, thanks for all the input. Once I get the camera and get some photos, taken, I'll try to post them as soon as I can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian l. schiele Posted February 3, 2006 Share Posted February 3, 2006 I'll secon that about www.holgamods.com Randy, will take care of you. His good at what he does. The manfuacturere of the Holga started doing what he has been doing for a long time! The tripod socket and the bulb setting anyway. Holgamods.cm ROCKS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glen_johnson1 Posted February 4, 2006 Share Posted February 4, 2006 "Glass lens seems moot in a thing like this. I have heard mixed results with it. After all, super sharp images really shouldnt come from this baby." Jeff's entitled to his opinion, he's right that the lens by itself doesn't make a huge difference. I resist value judgments on the 'right' kind of Holga camera and images derived from it, if only because of the irony - since Holga owners are well-accustomed to defending their right to use the thing in the first place. I have a glass-lensed 'Woca' model and it is definitely sharper in the center than the plastic meniscus, but 'super-sharp'? - no way, even by Holga standards. I also eliminated the light leaks and reduced the 'sunny' aperture because it improved the kind of images I sought in the hard flat desert light of the Southwestern U.S., - but one or two people seemed to think that was sacreligious as well. After all, can there really exist an orthodoxy of the alternative (crappy) camera? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dissembled Posted February 26, 2006 Share Posted February 26, 2006 I recommend buying the Holga SWL fom Randy at HolgaMods. It has a waist-lv viewfinder and you can even request larger aperture sizes if you want. Not to mention Randy is an awesome guy who's more than willing to answer any questions you might have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray79830 Posted May 24, 2006 Share Posted May 24, 2006 I agree with Bruce. Buy them all. I have had one each for years and love them all. The Woca does give a slightly better photo with its glass lens but the difference is just that - slight. We buy Holgas because they are funky fun cameras. I carry high end digital and 35mm's for serious shooting but my favorite camera is a 1970's Canon A-1. In my kit is a Snap Dragon pinhole plus a few small hand made pinholes made from Altoid tins. When I am shooting serious I also want to remember to have fun and that is where Holgas come into play. You just never know when the leaks will get so bad as to make a great photo. Sorry to be so winded but remember to enjoy and not get too serious. BTW - I enjoy all of the comments. Great group. Cheers Ray Esposito Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jstpierre Posted February 8, 2008 Share Posted February 8, 2008 Hello all! Just wanted to ask a question. Just bought a Holga 120FN, and am anxious to use it. I was told the earliest Holga production models have only ONE usable aperture (despite the switch) which is approximately f13. Do the N series cameras (or at least the 120FN) have a working aperture switch? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phule Posted February 8, 2008 Share Posted February 8, 2008 I don't know how accurate the f/13 value is (others have indicated f/11) but regardless your understanding of the Holga 120S (unmodified) is correct. As far as I know, the updated Holga 120N, FN, GFN, etc also only have one aperture value regardless of the setting on the switch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neil_purling Posted August 19, 2008 Share Posted August 19, 2008 I just got a GN and there is no effect from the aperture switch because there is a fixed hole that is smaller. If the glass lens makes the centre seem slightly sharper, OK. What of the effect on the edges & corners? When people say the glass lens is better it makes me worried! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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rickbehl Posted December 11, 2010 Share Posted December 11, 2010 <p>There's a good article here on how to choose your first Holga: http://holgadirect.com/47/how-do-i-choose/</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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