sandy. Posted July 17, 2004 Share Posted July 17, 2004 <P>So finally I got my EF70-300mm DO IS USM. I bought it from Calumet with very wonderful service. Maybe people in the Left Coast have a bit more sun and are less grouchy... <P>Well, how do I like the lens? After comparing it with my EF 70- 200mm f2.8 L IS USM, I would say the DO lens is a "much ado about nothing" Had I known it, I would not bother and spent that silly money on the DO lens. There is just no comparison between the two. The L lens <B>IS</B> that much better. <P>But please, please remember, this is only MVPHO (My Very Personal Humble Opinion). <P>The major saving grace for the DO lens is : It is more compact BUT weight about the same in feel, don't know about the actual weight difference. Auto-focus is a bit slower. The L lens is much brighter, and the IS is also better. The final image, the 200mm from the L with cropping to the same size as the 300mm DO at full zoom and full crop, the L lens is better and sharper. So there is no gain! <P>Well, now that I own it, maybe I can bring it as my travel lens... <P>Cheers.<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_macman Posted July 17, 2004 Share Posted July 17, 2004 >>> The L lens is much brighter Now that's the statement of the decade :) Anyhow, can you go deeper into explaining what you observed in comparisons at the same focal lenght? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobatkins Posted July 17, 2004 Share Posted July 17, 2004 Well, as I said in my "review", the reason for the DO lens to exist is small size and relatively inconspicuous appearence. It's meant as a small travel lens which will be hand held. It's not intended as a substitute for the 70-200L or the 100-400L. DO gives you the ability to make a lens short and to pretty much eliminate chromatic aberration, but it adds to cost and (under some circumstances) flare. So if you want a small travel lens for hand holding, the DO is perfect. If you want the sharpest possible images and don't care much about size or having a big white lens, go for the "L"s! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandy. Posted July 17, 2004 Author Share Posted July 17, 2004 For Bob : But Bob, where is your review? I only read the one written by David Hay... For The Macman : Give me a little time and I'll do one :-D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodolfo_negrete Posted July 17, 2004 Share Posted July 17, 2004 thank you for sharing Sandy. I think we all apreciate it here. the 70-200 IS are on my list for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodolfo_negrete Posted July 17, 2004 Share Posted July 17, 2004 for the price you are better off buying a couple primes too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitmstr Posted July 17, 2004 Share Posted July 17, 2004 surely you meant a DO about nothing ;-P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PuppyDigs Posted July 17, 2004 Share Posted July 17, 2004 Sandy you must be into weight training. I sold my EF 70-200 2.8L USM (non-IS) years ago. It was just too heavy for my 135 lb frame to heft all day. The 70-300 DO looks inviting, but I have a 70-200 4L USM I'm not too pleased with optically and in terms of bulk. Maybe I'll ditch my EF 75-300 IS (really sucks) and 70-200 4L (kinda sucks) and go for the DO. Sometimes the light’s all shining on me. Other times I can barely see. - Robert Hunter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny_johnson3 Posted July 17, 2004 Share Posted July 17, 2004 Hey Puppy Face - Not to hijack Sandy's thread but what kinda sucks about the 70-200mm, f4L? I've always heard that lens referred to as one of Canon's sleepers. Later, Johnny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandy. Posted July 17, 2004 Author Share Posted July 17, 2004 To Puppy Face : Yes, I agree. Weight is a great consideration every time I pick up the "L", but the results always put a silly grin on my face :-D. Whereas the "DO", the variable f-stop simply drives me nuts to no end. Aaaaahhhh!!! f4.5- f5.6? Canon should at least make it f3.5 to be useful. I am just stupid enough not to recognize this earlier, but like I said in Part Deux, I am a born sucker! What else can I say? It is definitely not Canon's fault, it is only me who have this impulsive buying urge that gets out of hand at times...Anybody knows a good psychiatrist? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eos 10 fan Posted July 17, 2004 Share Posted July 17, 2004 Sandy, I am wondering how they compare in terms of flare? -- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodolfo_negrete Posted July 17, 2004 Share Posted July 17, 2004 Puppy how much do you want for the 70-200 f4? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irregular_joe Posted July 17, 2004 Share Posted July 17, 2004 Sandy, thanks for the info.One small omission though....What are the prices for each lens.I have a feeling that there is a HUGE difference.Right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gerry_szarek Posted July 17, 2004 Share Posted July 17, 2004 Puppy face, what do you want for the 70-200F4L? I am in the market for one. Thanks,Gerry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim_larson1 Posted July 17, 2004 Share Posted July 17, 2004 <i>The final image, the 200mm from the L with cropping to the same size as the 300mm DO at full zoom and full crop, the L lens is better and sharper. So there is no gain</i><p> I found the same thing with my 70-200/4L and my 75-300. I am actually not surprised by this. Sandy is comparing the much heavier 70-200/2.8L-IS to the 70-300/DOyoubelievethIS. Those lenses are very price comparable (What, $1300 vs $1500?) What would be really illuminating would be a comparison to the 70-200/4L to the 70-300/DOyoubelievethIS. . .Conventional wisdom would say the image quality should still go to the 70-200/4L but the 70-200/4L lacks IS (and is LESS than half the price). To get 280mm, I still say (and I already have put my money where my mouth is) get a 70-200/4L, 1.4TC, Collar, and cheap tripod (portability). This rig is ($575, $275, $125, $40) about $1000 and is still 25% cheaper. . . I think the DO has it's place because of size. . .but at the $1300 is way overpriced for what you get. . .$750 makes much more sense. Now Puppy Face has a really interesting story (do a search!) regarding asymmetric sharpness on the 70-200/4L. . .wonder if that is a unique problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noah_s Posted July 17, 2004 Share Posted July 17, 2004 PuppyFace With all do respect, I think you need to send your 70-200 4.0 into Canon. I've seen your thread regarding OOF on the left side, and I've also seen many many photos with the 10D and 70-200 4.0 that look great. I agree that your copy is not performing correctly, but it is quite possible that it simply needs to be repaired. Again I have a lot of respect for your work and your opinions, but I think you should send it in before coming to the conclusion that the lens 'kinda sucks'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom_mihelich1 Posted July 19, 2004 Share Posted July 19, 2004 As an aside to Jim Larson, I started a thread around about a month ago asking for a comparison between what I thought were the logical pair to compare, i.e., the 100-400 L IS and the 70-300 DO IS. They are almost identical in price and the majority of their range is the same. One respondant (sorry, don't remember his name) said the L was sharper than the DO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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