What is wrong with my M6?

Discussion in 'Leica and Rangefinders' started by john_hoang, Sep 15, 2000.

  1. On a recent trip I shot 5 rolls of films. After getting the slides back I noticed some weird light streaks as circled on the accompanied 3 frames. What makes me crazy is they do not appear on all frames, but couple of frames per roll. And it happens with frames in the middle of the roll, not beginning frames nor end frames. And the pattern looked the same.

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    Could it be light tight problem between the lense and the camera? If so, then all frames would be affected. I just can not figure out. Please help if you have any ideas. I should note that I had only one lense attaches to the camera at all time. Thanks in advance.

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    Here is the link to the pictures:

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    http://home.pacbell.net/rby2000/test.htm
     
  2. John,
    I looked at your pictures, and I had the exact same pattern on an old
    M3 years ago. I was told that the shutter of an M camera, while
    sufficiently light tight for normal shooting, does have a weakness if
    extreme light enters the camera. I rechecked my negatives, and the
    leaks all corresponded to frames that I changed lenses on. I left
    the lens off of the body too long in bright daylight, and the same
    pattern that your photos have developed.

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    You mention that you did not change lenses, and the photos look like
    you were in consistant light... (if you were going in and out of a
    building you may have had the aperture wide open, which could have
    let in too much light when outdoors again). So assuming your lens was
    closed to a proper f-stop for outdoor shooting, this would be
    disturbing.

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    If you have a history with this camera and this just occured, then
    something may be wrong with the way the shutter is aligning when
    cocked. If this is a new camera, I'd use the pictures to let Leica
    know what the problem is... It may speed up the troubleshooting. Let
    us know what is up when the problem is repaired... It could be useful
    for the rest of us in the future.

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    Good Luck!
     
  3. On how many rolls did it occur?
     
  4. Hi Bill,

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    All of them. It randomly happened to middle frames like 14, 26, 18...

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    Today, I emailed Leica, told them what had happened. I do not know
    when I will have their answer. I will let you know...

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    Thanks to all of you.
     
  5. I also had light getting in around the shutter, and it looks similar
    to the streaks you got. Usually it happens when changing lenses in
    bright sun light, as was previously mentioned. I would do a test-walk
    around with the camera set on a particular frame for a while with no
    cap on, and see if the streaks apear on that frame.
     
  6. I had the same problem when I bought my beat up very used M2. It was
    also random negitives (actually the ones which sat in the gate for a
    while when I carried my camera in the sun). I took it back and they
    touched up some black paint inside the bottom cover (illogical I
    know, as the streaks are at the top in the camera), and it has been
    fine since. Try putting in a fast film like TMZ, and then tape all
    seams but one, and put in the sun for a while, then wind on (Easier
    to spot small leak on unexposed/processed film) uncover a different
    seam and repeat. Hopefully with this method you can isolate it to a
    certain location.
     
  7. Yuuk, Hee hee, THe price you pay for owning a Leica. You all enjoy
    it now. Heeaaa!
     
  8. I've just received email from Leica asking me to send the camera back.
    Amazing! What a quick reply! This is what I've paid for: excellent
    products and excellent service. I AM a proud owner of my Leica!

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    Thanks to all of your answers. You too, Trib!

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    I will keep you up to date.
     
  9. I had similar problems with a M4-2 when using a M winder and
    slow speeds. It also can occur when the shutter curtain brakes
    are not working properly. Let us know what Leica says.
     
  10. I've received the camera back from Leica about 2 weeks ago. According
    to the accompanied paper, they said they "repair circuit board". I
    emailed them to ask what they really did, and so far without answer.

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    However, they sent me a new warranty card with 90 more days to
    compensate to the problem.

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    I have not had time to run some films to test the camera yet. That is
    also the reason for this late posting. Sorry and best wishes to all
    of you.
     

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