What is the best developer for Agfa APX 400

Discussion in 'Black and White' started by richard_gingras|2, Oct 28, 2000.

  1. Hello everybody!

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    IBm a big user of AGFA APX 400 film for three main reasons: 1) ItBs cheap;half the price of other films, so I can shoot twice as many. 2) ItBs a beautiful film. 3)I like fast films such as the 400 because I can hand hold the camera and donBt have to use the tripod all the time as is the case with slower films.

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    When developing my films I like a combination of sharpness, good gradation and as little grain as possible. This is not always an easy combination to achieve. I have tried Rodinal at dilutions of 1:50 and find it to have too much grain but the contrast was beautiful. I have also tried Xtol at dilutions of 1:1, 1:2 and 1:3 with relatively satisfying results but lacking contrast with the times given by Kodak. IBm starting to be afraid to use Xtol because a lot of people are complaining of inconsistant results even when used as Bone shotB only. IBve had some problems with caked Xtol chemicals (1 LT ), but never used them and returned them for exchange.

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    What are the major differences in the negative when using Xtol 1:1 vs 1:2 vs 1:3? Which is best?

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    I keep reading that Xtol is a great revelator and wouldnBt mind sticking to it. Is there something better out there or can someone suggest the best way to use Xtol?
     
  2. In general, the greater the dilution, the slower the development
    action, and in turn the finer the grain.

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    I have been very pleased with Xtol at 1+3 dilutions. I have also
    been even more pleased with a dilution of Xtol with a dash of Rodinal
    added. For Tri-X I expose at E.I. 200 and develop for 9 minutes at
    24 degrees C. with the following fomula: 100 mL Xtol, 400 mL water,
    4 mL Rodinal.

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    I would suggest you try this Xtol/Rodinal blend with APX 400 and see
    if it gives you the contrast you want. I have used this fomula with
    not only Tri-X, but also T-Max 400 as well as Ilford Delta 100 and
    Delta 400. However, you will have to experiment to get the ideal
    time for APX400... start maybe around 10 minutes at 24 degrees.
     
  3. I don't have an answer for your main question (What is the best
    developer for Agfa APX 400?),but just wanted to correct what Sam said
    about the effect of dillution above.<P>
    The higher the dillution,the slower the developer action of
    course,but this doesn't result in finer grain.On the
    contrary.especially with developers like Xtol and D-76,it will give
    you slightly increased grain.This is because dillution reduces the
    solvency of these developers, and extended development time does not
    fully compensate for it.<P>
    In your exemple,the advantages of dilluted Xtol are
    better,gradation,better shadow detail,slightly more sharpness.The
    penalty is slightly more grain,which is quite negligible at
    1:1.That's why 1:1 is the favorite of many.For maximum shadow
    detail,1:3 is best.<P>
    I had 1 or 2 caked Xtol packages,but otherwise i did not have a
    consistency problem.
     
  4. Hi Richard, I like Agfapan 400 (EI 320)in Rodinal 1+50 and cut down
    on the apparent grain with GENTLE agitation. After initially banging
    the developing tank several times to eliminate bubbles, tilt the tank
    about 45 degrees SLOWLY about once per second or one and a half
    seconds. DO NOT INVERT. This should give less apparent grain than
    Tri-X in D76 1+1, or TMax 400 in TMax. Also, I find the grain
    pattern unobtrusive in character.
     
  5. Hello!

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    I will soon try Agfapan films with the older Agfa developer recipes
    like Agfa 8 and 14. Developer 8 is Glycin based, and 14 is a solvent
    Metol developer. I will post the results on this forum.
     
  6. I get great results with Xtol but the manufacturer's recommend times
    (Kodak and any other company) are intended to be a starting point
    only. You have to adjust development time to get the results you
    desire, using your equipment and techniques.
     
  7. Greetings,

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    Just a comment on XTOL. Regardless of dilution, make sure you're
    using 200mL of stock developer per roll.

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    Regards,
     

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