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<H3> Factory Loaded 8x11 Film </h3><P>

 

<h3> Minox GmbH, Germany </h3>

<font color ='red'><UL><LI>

Minopan 25(Agfapan APX 25) 36 exp, <LI> Minopan 100(AGFAPAN APX 100) 36 exp,

<LI> Minopan 400(AGFAPAN APX 400) 36 exp

<LI> Minochrome 50 36 exp

<LI> Minocolor 25 in 15 and 36 exp , <LI> Minocolor 100; 15/36 exp,<LI> Minocolor 400 15/36 exp

<LI> Minocolor Pro 100 15/30 exp</UL><P></font>

 

<p><h3> ACMEL JAPAN films(Fuji) for MINOX 8x11 </H3><font color ='green'>

 

<p><img src="http://web.ionsys.com/~~martntai/manual/REALA.JPG" border=3 align='left'><p>

 

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<li> ACMEL KING SUPER G 100 15/36 exp

<li> ACMEL KING SUPER G 400 15/36 exp

<li> ACMEL REALA ACE 100 15/30 exp (=Minocolor Pro 100)

<li> ACMEL NEOPAN 100 36 exp

<li> ACMEL NEOPAN 400 36 exp </font>

</ul>

<p> <font size=2>( Available in Japan, Hong Kong )</font>

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Minox 8x11 films are available from major photographic suppliers, such as <P><a href="http://www.bhphoto.com"> B&H </a>in USA,

<P> <a href=" http://www.eightelmphoto.com">8Elm</a> or

<a href="http://www.altcamera.com/">Alt Camera Exchange </a>in Toronto.<P>

Or you can mail order through a list of Minox suppliers around the world is listed in <a href="http://www.minox.com">MINOX Wetzlar</a><p>

 

Minox 8x11 film has a frame format of 8mm x 11mm and film width =9.4mm

Minox format is some times referred to as 9.5mm format by mistake.

<p> 9.5mm was a European movie standard, used in Pathe movie camera, it has center sproket hole between frames, frame size about 6x8mm, and

is unsuitable for Minox 8x11 camera.

<p> Any one using 9.5mm width film will jam his Minox camera.

<p> I think Minox cassette was intentinally designed to reject

Pathe 9.5mm film, perforamted or unperforated.

 

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The actual measured width of Minox format is not 9.5mm, but between

9.2mm to 9.3mm

 

<p><h3> MINOX FORMAT IS 8x11 format , not 9.5 format !!</h3>

<p> You cannot put Pathe 9.5mm film into Minox 8x11

cassette.

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If you have a 35mm film to 8x11 slitter, then almost any 35mm film is available for your Minox 8x11 camera; further if you have a 16mm to

8x11 slitter, you can access vast amount of microfilm common in microfiche industry, thus

expand enormously the variety of film available for Minox

For exmaple you can slit your own Kodak Technical Pan, TMAX, infrared,

ADOX, Agfa COPEX RAPID,Fuji Super HR etc.

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Has anyone tried respooling super 8mm movie film into Minox

cassettes?I used to respool b&w 16mm movie film into Minolta

cassettes when I was into Minolta 16mm cameras years ago.I have just

gotten into Minox cameras and have just bought a cartridge of super

8mm tri-x (ASA 400) b&w film.Haven`t tried it yet,but the 8mm width

is pretty close to Minox film and no splitter is required!The

sprocket holes will be annoying,but if you shoot your frames a little

larger than you want,it won`t matter.

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Lance, I haven't heard any one using super 8mm movie film for Minox cassette. The Minox film is 9.2mm, super 8mm is 8mm, there is a 1.2mm difference, which is quite subtantial. If respool super 8mm film into Minox cassette, there is nothing to prevent the film from wobbling up and down the spool, and may cause camera jam.

If you want to try, try it with care, and see how it goes. Good luck !

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I was e-mailed asking where to get 8mm movie film for Minox

respooling.You have to get Super 8mm film-regular 8mm film is

actually 16mm wide!It`s shot on one side,flipped,then shot on the

other side.It`s split into 8mm during processing at the lab.The Suoer

8mm film I bought is Kodak B&W Reversal film.It comes in Tri-X(ASA

400)and Plus-X(ASA 100)and comes in a cartridge(light trap!)and you

pull it out as needed.

I got mine(along with rolls of Minopan 100 and 400 in 36 exposures

for $7 a roll)for about $11 for 50 feet from Samy`s Camera-(800)321-

4726.I learned that they had a local store in Hollywood near me,so I

went.Huge discount photography warehouse-darkroom stuff,etc.The local

professional photographers rave about their prices.They have a Minox

department(probably with great prices on new & used Minoxes)but it

closes at 7 p.m.PST and I was there later(store closes at 8 p.m.PST.)

so I don`t know what else they have.

I previously ordered Super 8mm and several rolls of Minopan(at $5 a

roll)from Cambridge Photo in New York,but after weeks of them lying

and saying that the order "went out today",I finally got somebody who

told me they still had it on backorder and had NOTHING in stock!(I

cancelled.)They were also very rude and obnoxious to deal with on the

phone.

I also ordered Super 8mm film from Adorama in New York and Sy was

very helpful.They sent me color by mistake(I ordered Tri-X B&W)and I

returned it but have yet to see the Tri-X.

Hope this helps.

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I finally tried the Kodak Super 8mm B&W movie film in a Minox B

camera.I reloaded a Minopan 36-exposure cartridge with the

recommended length for a 50-exposure roll.(This actually gives about

53-54 exposures.)The cartridge took 50 exposures fine.The film went

through the camera with no problems.When loading into the Minox

developing tank(mine takes 50-exposure rolls)I had to make a hole in

the end of the film(I used a stationary store hole-puncher)to engage

the screw on the drum.(The metal clip isn`t strong enough to pull the

tightly-wound 50 exposures out of the cartridge.)The film developed

nicely and printed fine on a Minox enlarger.You just have to keep in

mind whether the film sprocket holes will be on top or bottom of your

negatives when you`re shooting pictures.It worked great and was a LOT

cheaper than buying a splitter!

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Lance, your experiment with super 8 movie film is interesting.<p> What is the effective frame size you got, not including the sprocket holes ? What is width of the super * movie film, and what is its ASA/DIN rating ?

<p> Can you find Pathe 9.5mm movie film ? It is supposely very close to the Minox format.

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Martin-

The 8mm movie film frame is from edge to edge of the film.(No

borders.)The sprocket holes are obstructing the top or bottom of your

frame,depending on how you load the film.(I keep the holes on the

bottom of the frame so while shooting I can keep in mind I`m losing

the very bottom of negative area.)I used ASA 100 and 400.It works,but

I just ordered a slitter and plan to slit 35mm film in the future.I

don`t want to try Pathe 9.5,since it`ll probably jam the camera.With

8mm,you have to enlarge to almost 8 x 10 to get a 5 x 7 print-you

lose lots of negative area.(To slit is better!)

Question: How is ASA 25 or ASA 50 film for Minox?Are they too slow to

hand-hold?Is quality(less grain) better than ASA 100?I noticed much

better quality with ASA 100 film than with ASA 400 film in

enlargements.

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Lance, you do lost some film area on 8mm movie film loaded into Minox cassette.

<p> Re: ASA 25 film. Since Minox cameras (except EC/ECX/MX) is always used at

wide open f/3.5 aperture, based on Peter Zimmerman sunny 10*ASA rule, at sunny day

outdoor, you have to use shutter speed of 1/250 sec.

<p> Agfapan 25 is a fine grain film, you can enlerge 8x11mm negative to 8x10" and hardly see the grains.

<p> If you want finer grain, you use Kodak Technical Pan.

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Lance, if you have a chance, do try out Pathe "9.5mm" Fuji film.

<p> It may surprice you amd me. <p> I doubt the story about how Pathe Baby 9.5mm film was created by sliiting three strips from

35mm film stock "between perfortion".

<p> I measured the width of 35mm film "between perforation" and it turned out to be 25mm. Cut into three, one can only get three strips of 8.3mm film.

<p> Pathe Baby indeed had three strips on one piece of film.

<p> I am beginning to suspect that even Pathe-Baby film is not 9.5mm width.

<p> Instead, I suspect that Pathe-Baby film could actually be 9.33mm wide.Because I suspect that the three-in-one strip

might well be Pathe 28mm film. If Pathe cut their own 28mm film into three strips, then the width would be 28mm/3=9.33mm, and would feed the Minox cassette smoothly.

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Agfa Copex Rapid copy film, developed in a new Speed Photography

Ultra Resolution SPUR developer, produces 600 lpmm, double that

of Technical Pan in Technidol

 

<p>

 

<a href="https://ssl.kundenserver.de/shop.fotolaborgeraete.de/lumiere-

de/shop/technik/Spur/copex-uk.pdf"> Agfa Copex Rapid and Spur </a>

<P>

<a href="http://www.gigabitfilm.com">Gigabitfilm </a>

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