What drives you nuts about the D300?

Discussion in 'Nikon' started by sanford, Feb 14, 2009.

  1. For me, it's how easily the auto focus switch gets knocked out of position. I have to remember to check it constantly or I will find myself shooting in manual focus or continuous focus. Maybe it has something to do with my being left handed and how I hold the camera, but the switch moves far too easily.
  2. That's true of every Nikon body that's designed that way. You just learn to stop grabbing it in a way that does that. And, you just learn reflexively to check, too. I find it happens less frequently to me with the D300 than it does with my D200, actually.
  3. ShunCheung

    ShunCheung Administrator

    I paid $1799 for my D300 early in its product cycle. What "drives me nuts" is that Nikon is now selling a camera in the mid $1000 range that is clearly superior to the D2X that was sold at $5000 merely 4 years ago. (Only 2 years and 10 months had elapsed between the D2X becoming available in February 2005 to the D300 in November 2007.) Value for the D2X/D2Xs in the used market sank like a rock as soon as the D300 was introduced.
    One item missing on both the D300 and D700 is a dedicated exposure bracketing button. I have unintentionally engaged that feature and messed up some images. I have no problem with the AF/MF S/C/M button on all Nikon AF bodies.
  4. I liked the overlay-info display of D200 better than on D300, during playback on D200 you would see the image full size in the background as different exposure info would be overlayed, now on D300 it's different info pages and it either covers the image too much or it makes the image just a fraction (like 1/4) of the screen.
  5. I never accidentally bumped that C/S/M switch but when I switch, I have to look to make sure it is where it's supposed to be. Like Shun, I miss the dedicated bracketing button that was on the D200 and vanished on the D300.
    My D300 with the attached MB-D10 has the annoying - and intermittent tendency - to not display the image or the menu when the MB-D10 is on and the respective buttons on the camera are pressed - simply nothing happens. Turning the MB-D10 to L rectifies this - when I turn it back on, sometimes it goes right back to the same problem, sometimes it doesn't. I catually think that the MB-D200 was the better design and allowed for a better connection between camera and battery pack.
  6. I vote for the easily bumped switch, too. The other thing that drives me nuts is some posters on other forums who still claim there is a flaw in the design that makes the D300 die suddenly in the middle of shooting and that it effects huge numbers of cameras.
  7. What I want on any camera is a personal reset switch. I want to have a set of things that I set like WB-A, Exposure-0, Bracketing-off, Quality-L/N, etc.
  8. Yes - the focusing & not to forget my issue with the lens release button with is too sensitive..... I want more resistance Nikon!
    Yes & from handling alone - the metering changes somehow. I aim for Matrix - but inevently I'm always in Spot. - - I don't get that one.
    That it won't take the same type of Eclips as my D200. I have a big thing on my sensor which no blowing to the end of time is getting rid of. Eclipse E2 is on the way..... but the wait is too long...
    Noise now that I'm used to the D700
    Lil :)
  9. Nothing. But I'm not usually shooting fast-moving things.
  10. Very little. :) It has taken me about six months of use (not every day, but mostly every week) to really understand how to use it, though. I keep liking it more and more as I understand why Nikon put a certain button where they put it, say.
    But I must agree that the M/A/C focus switch button feels a bit fiddly and I can't easily operate it without turning the camera around and looking at it.
  11. The omission of a dedicated exposure bracketing button.
  12. Sanford, I agree with you 100%. I wound up using gaffer tape and taping the selector switch to S.
  13. That is very easy...... what bothers me most is that I only own one! Would be nice to have 1 for each lens!
  14. Re: The D700, the relocation of the image display button compared to the D200. It's gets old calling up the "menu" function everytime I want to chimp and image.
    Guess I'll get used to it eventually.
  15. What drives me nuts? The fact that so many people gripe about the D300 and I still can't afford one. Heck, wanna swap for the obviously vastly superior D2H? I'll throw in three EN-EL4's, the EH-6 power adapter and maybe a few other goodies.
    What, no takers? Yeh, see, the D300 ain't so bad after all, hmm? ;>
  16. Lex, D90?
  17. I'm giving it some serious thought, Dan. The D90 is the AE-1 of this generation of dSLRs. I'd have to trade in a bunch of stuff to make the trade. But due to back and neck injuries I'm not enjoying the D2H as much anymore, especially not lugging a bunch of heavy equipment. Last time I shot a PJ type session (a local industrial fire), just lugging my D2H, 300/4.5 AI Nikkor, 35-70/2.8D AF, 50/1.8D and SB-800 gave me a neck and back ache for the next several days. A modest load by most standards but a bit much for me nowadays.
    A D90 and the new 35/1.8 DX Nikkor would do nicely for my purposes. And the low noise/high ISO performance seems promising. Giving it some thought, we'll see...
  18. Lex, you might consider a belt/harness with detachable pouches. Would get the weight off the neck/upper back and place it more on the hips yet leave everything quickly accessible. Can place lighter gear like filters/memory cards/triggers on the harness portion, heavier, bulkier like 300 mm behind back since they slide around for access. Camera with lens in pouch at side not interfering with leg movement. Shot with someone from the local club using one last weekend, pretty slick. Can add or subtract pouches depending on the shoot.
  19. Shun, do you think that since the affordable consumer DSLR is relatively new technology, the rapid progress can be expected til like film slrs, they are perfected to point the standard features meet the needs and the technology plateaus. I'm not a computer guy, but seems like in the 90's computers went through such a technology spurt which has slowed in the last 5 or so years. In the ninetys, it seemed like every couple of years a computer was obsolete, not any more. As for that focus switch, I used to rest the camera, lens down on vertical dividers in the bag. That could change the setting. Now the lens rests on horizontal divider over a timer trigger which wouldnt be needed unless camera was off it. Plus, manipulating it from behind the camera just doesnt make sense to me, so I have to look. I guess if it was important enough, I could drill with it til I get it, but it isnt.
  20. ShunCheung

    ShunCheung Administrator

    I suspect that some people have problems with the AF/MF C/S/M switch on the D300 and other Nikon AF bodies because they hold their camera incorrectly.

    If you hand hold your camera, your left palm should be supporting the camera from the bottom and use the fingers on your left hand to focus and zoom the lens. In that case no part of your left hand can accidentally turn the C/S/M switch. However, if you grab the left side of the camera body with your left hand, I can see why your middle or ring finger can accidentally knock that C/S/M switch out of position. But that is not the right way to hand hold.

    In case that is your problem, please don't blame that on Nikon.
  21. Lex: I think Bob's really onto something, there. I've evangelized here occasionally about the Think Tank stuff (but I don't feel too pushy, since Ellis does it too!)... but man, what a relief, getting that gear off of my neck and shoulders.

    I spent some time the other day on a go-go-go shoot with two bodies and several lenses (including the weighty 70-200/2.8), and used Think Tank's modular system. Though I have one of their simple, heavily padded belts off of which I hang a couple of body holsters and lens drop-in bags, I also use their Speed Racer product. The Speed Racer has a very comfortable waist belt, but you can tuck that in and use the bag off the shoulder, too, if you like. From that bag's belt, I also mount the same modular extras that I use with their belt-only rigs.

    Anyway, I can't emphasize enough how comfortable it is to let all of that mass ride on your hips instead of your upper body. Lowe Pro makes similar stuff, but I've become a big fan of Think Tank's little design nuances.
  22. Being pretty new to any semblance of serious photography, I need all the help I can get. I've found the D300 (my first and only DSLR) fantastic. However, my pet peeve is that the viewfinder grid display does not follow the rule of thirds. I have it on to give me a reference to vertical and horizontal but it doesn't offer much help beyond that. Am I missing something?
  23. The only thing that drives me nuts about the D300 is that I can't afford to buy one right now.
  24. Yup, waist bags can help. But I can't put much more weight there than on my back. Car wreck banged up the lower back (left a weird knot on the right upper edge of the sacrum), right knee, blah-blah-blah, whinge-whine-moan. I do sometimes split up my camera gear between a small shoulder bag and small Lowepro Off Trail waist bag. Helps a bit. But when I'm in a rush, like trying to catch that industrial fire last month, I just toss everything into a medium size shoulder bag. (Was hardly worth the effort anyway, no flames, not much smoke.)
  25. Shun, this NEVER happens with my D50 or D80, just the D300. I believe the switch doesn't have enough resistance. I don't know how it gets knocked out of position so much but I do know it shouldn't happen so easily no matter how I hold the camera.
  26. There's really not anything that quite drives me nuts about the D300, it is an uncannily satisfying camera. One thing I wish were a bit different was how the two sets of settings banks work. Sure it is great to be able to have the four different choices. But the way it works is when you change something in the selected banks that setting change is permanent. I would much rather we would be able to select from one of the preconfigured banks into a "working bank" and the changes affect the working bank, but the preconfigured banks stay to a known good set of choices. If you would want to change the preconfigured banks then the saving would need to be a deliberate choice. If it is an issue of firmware memory, I'd much rather give up one bank to allow implementation of this feature. I am aware that you can load the banks again from a CF card, and that does work, but it is not very convenient.
  27. The Price
    D300; $1,699 new
    D200; $750 (or less) new
    Now, if I was doing this for a living, price wouldn't be as much of an objection. But at $1,000 less, getting a D200 leaves a lot of room for more glass/flash/tripod etc.
  28. What "drives me nuts" is that Nikon is now selling a camera in the mid $1000 range that is clearly superior to the D2X that was sold at $5000 merely 4 years ago.'​
    Shun, totally agree. It seems that camera prices almost conform to Moore's Law as computers have.
    In 1991, Kodak released the first commercially available digital SLR, the Kodak DCS-100 . It consisted of a modified Nikon F3 SLR body, modified drive unit, and an external storage unit connected via cable. The 1.3 megapixel camera cost approximately US$ 30,000
    If you like reading geeky tech stuff, also check out the wiki articles on CCD Sensors (includes stuff on CMOS) and Flash Memory . These might be tech articles, but the information does provide insight on why camera prices work the way they do.
  29. ShunCheung

    ShunCheung Administrator

    Sanford, perhaps this is an issue with your particular D300, but I never have that problem with my D300 as well as D100, D200, D700, D2X, F100, F5 ..., all of which have a similar S/C/M switch although the design has changed a bit over the years. Your D80 is slightly different since it only has 2 settings instead of 3.
    Again, if you hold the camera correctly, you should not have any finger near that S/C/M switch while you are holding the camera horizontally or vertically. Instead, the center of your left palm should be bracing the bottom of the camera, and I simply don't see how you palm can accidentally knock that switch out of position. Even though you try, it should be very difficult to move that switch with your palm, especially when there is a lens on the camera.
  30. I think left handed people tend to also be left eyed! For verticals some of us hold a camera with the right hand on the bottom and and the left hand on top which seems to be the opposite of most people from what I see and puts the fingers of the left hand near the switch. You are correct about the two position switch of the D50/D80 being more positive and not as closely spaced between detents as the three position of the D300. I'm too old to change my habits now but part of the problem is that I rarely use the D300 except for special events. I have to form the habit of constantly checking myself. Ah, what left handed people have to endure in a right handed world - we are the forgotten minority. Actually we have had many left handed presidents in the US lately.
  31. I guess I'm alone on this one and it's kinda niggly but I wish the two button reset either left the file format setting alone or reset to RAW, or even JPG fine instead of JPG normal. All the other settings that it resets, for me, make sense and are perfect except I always have to remember the extra step to reset format after the reset- which kind of defeats the purpose. I'd like to see statistics of D300 shooters on how often they use RAW, vs jpg fine, jpg normal etc. my guess is with the low cost of storage, the advanced image quality capabilities of the D300, that jpg normal is "not so normal"
  32. I am in love with my D300, I have had it for about 3 weeks. Only thing I have had is the playback mode has inadvertinly turned off on me, and sometimes it does not play back when I hit the play button.. Maybe it has something to do with the MB-D10 grip. Thinking about the grip, I think the selector swith is a bit out of position, small, and hard to find while using the camera.
    It was a HUGE improvment, I went from a D1x to this. Wow!!!!
  33. My number 1 gripe: Cannot lock up the mirror in LIVE VIEW mode.
    I use Live-view for taking low-angle close-ups. The current set up requires you to switch back and forth between Live-view and Mirror-lock-up modes for every shot. Pain in the neck!
  34. Shun, this is nothing new. I remember buying my first digital SLR (the canon D60) for close to $3000 and then just 4 months later, Canon announced a newer & improved replacement for half the price! If only I had waited.....but you can play that game for ever!
  35. I love my D300. I haven't had any AF switch issues. The only very small gripe would be the rubber door over where the USB cable plugs in is sometimes awkward to close. My only other small gripe is that the D700 was released about 7 months after I bought my D300:).
  36. acm


    What drives you nuts about the D300?
    Not having one myself!
  37. I am surprised no one has mentioned this but I live in NYC (The Bronx) and what bothers me is the neckstrap telling everyone which camera I have. I wouldnt mind if it said NIKON but do you have to the theives which one!
  38. I wouldn't mind if it said NIKON but do you have to Tell the theives which one!
  39. I know that the D300 and D700 have a lot of similarities. In regard to having a dedicated Bracketing button, I know that on the D700, you can assign the AE lock button to control Bracketing using the front Command Dial. Maybe you can with the D300 as well, I did this on my D700 and that eliminates the need for a dedicated button for this.
  40. The only thing that bothers me about the D300 is that the battery grip costs ~$270.00.
  41. ShunCheung

    ShunCheung Administrator

    Nathan, yes, you can program one of the function buttons to be the bracketing button on the D300, just as you can on the D700, but I still prefer to have a dedicated BKT button on both.
  42. I loved the ability on the D200 to press the ? button while powering up to create a new photo directory on the CF card. This was great when changing locations so that all new photos ended up in their own directory. Of course you can do this by clicking through the menu system, but nothing as easy as powering on with the ? button pressed. Why would they remove an existing feature when developing a new product? They could easily bring this back in a firmware update for the D300 and D700.
  43. After using a Nikon F, a Nikon 6006, a D70 I feel that the D300 is the first camera that does not get in the way. I miss the simplicity of the F (I think the manual was about 25 pages) but I am more than happy to accept a little bit of complexity for flexibility.
    I'm curious about those that wish that there was a dedicated Bkt button for bracketing exposures. The Fn button does this by default. What are you setting your Fn button to instead? I've looked at the list of the things that the Fn button can do but for me I could not figure out when I would need that or that there were other ways to achieve the same goal.
    Again I'm curious not critical of your choice of your setting(s) of Fn button.
  44. Paul - my function button is set for DOF preview and the DOF preview button is set for selecting manual focus lenses.
  45. What drives me nuts about the D300? Not owning one!
  46. What drives me nuts about the D300?: Absolutely nothing! I am extremely grateful that I own one!
  47. Love my D300 as well!
  48. Been using a 2X for a couple years and am grateful for the smaller size of the 300 as the 2X got pretty heavy for an all day event shoot and a monster with the 80/400 lenz.... Something odd though, Some of my best shots have come from the little "Cool-Pix" I picked up for about $150.00 awhile back and keep it in my shirt pocket where-ever I go.. 8-MPX and it fits in your pocket...things sure have changed over the years...
  49. I am very grateful over the past year and a half to have owned maybe 5 or more D300s and swear by them. With the D200 and the D300 there is one common fault for those of us who carry around our necks more than one camera and lens which bump against each other.
    The lens or camera may bump against the matrix, spot, counterweight button, which is not firm enough and knock it out of kilter, and if it moves into the 'spot' mode, all shots will be terribly off in exposure especially until you discover it.
    This has happened a number of times, and the first time I was completely baffled why my exposures were all over the place and supposed it some sort of camera fault: it wasn't . . . exactly. But the small button next to the viewfinder could have been designed for more 'positive' force and maybe to be 'pulled out' or 'pushed in' or with a combined center button to confirm that one really wanted to change it, as in other Nikon cameras I've owned . . . and that's basically my only minor peeve.
    And I shoot 'fast' -- real fast - often seeing, composing (framing) and shooting in one to five seconds, and that may include multiple shots.
    If my exposures are off with a 'C' series, that shows me for sure that button has been turned and I am in the wrong exposure mode. I seldom find that any other exposure mode than matrix metering suits my needs, although for studio work, the camera doubles as a handy spot meter if you want to use it in 'spot' mode, and for back lighting center-weight may produce better results sometimes, especially since you can vary (in menus) the size of the center that is metered.
    The camera is 'brilliant' or at least superior. If this were the last camera Nikon made, it would be good enough, although I would prefer better quality at high ISOs as shown by the D3 and D700s which are next on my pauper's list.
    I would keep a D300 in my shooter's bag just for the crop factor on telephoto, no matter what.
    John (Crosley)
    (I am not saying that I currently 'own' five or six D300s ;~)) )
  50. I agree with Manuel. It irked the heck out of me when I had to purchase two extra grips for my F6's
    a number of years ago, and I feel the same about the extra $265 I paid for a vertical release on
    my two D300's. BTW, Shun, I often inadvertantly move the autofocus switch on my D300's when I'm
    shooting weddings, and it has nothing to do with the way I hold my cameras. Sometimes in the heat
    of the moment the switch gets bumped, although I do think it was far more prevalent on my F6's.
    Other than that, the two D300's I purchased last spring were my first digital cameras, and I must say
    they have been outstanding performers.
    Thanks, John Mirra
  51. The fact that it's so incredibly good, I can't bring myself to ditch it for another D700. I'm currently using a mix of D700s and D300s. Normally I would prefer to have all bodies the same, but the D300's DX format gives me capabilities that I don't have on the D700. It's a bit smaller and lighter than the D700, and a comparable FX format lens would be heavier as well; I use it when I need longer reach, or want to travel a bit lighter.
  52. That I only have one, so I switch lenses more often than I like.
  53. Nothing... :):)
    Last time 840 pictures at the temperature below zero all day... and still remained 40% of battery!..
  54. Threads like this one....
  55. I am surprised no one has mentioned this but I live in NYC (The Bronx) and what bothers me is the neckstrap telling everyone which camera I have. I wouldnt mind if it said NIKON but do you have to the theives which one!​
    Then you should replace it =)
    I like this strap
  56. I agree about the strap. Hey maybe some people don't know, but Nikon will not confiscate your camera if you don't wear their thin, uncomfortable strap. I never used them, don't care much for flashy branding. 13 year Tamrac strap is serving me well and is holding a 4th Nikon now. I don't have a problem with bumping Focus switch accidently, but I do have a hard time changing it when I want to. Especially in the winter when your fingers are not as nimble. What I do have a problem with is the rocker selector. The center push is not always perfect and I'm glad Nikon corrected it in D700. It bugs me that D3 had it, so why did Nikon try to save $0.50 on this cheesy switch.
  57. Love my D300 and I can't honestly think of any gripes. My D40x was a lot of fun but D300 just made everything so fast and easy. I don't bump the focus switch ever, but my girlfriend sometimes does with her D300. She is left eye dominant, maybe that has something to do with it. She has more trouble pressing her nose into the screen because of her left eye as well.
    Sun Dance , Feb 15, 2009; 12:18 p.m.
    My number 1 gripe: Cannot lock up the mirror in LIVE VIEW mode.

    I use Live-view for taking low-angle close-ups. The current set up requires you to switch back and forth between Live-view and Mirror-lock-up modes for every shot. Pain in the neck!
    Sun Dance: Why don't you just turn exposure delay mode on. I assume you are on a good tripod for those low-angle close-ups. It would save you a step, and if you are on a tripod I have read the the 1 second delay is enough to stop the mirror slap vibration. Just a thought.
  58. The 'multi selector' (rocker switch/Nintendo control) is also what irritates me most. As well as the less than positive centre press and the size that needs unnecessary lateral movement of the thumb to operate, its placement makes it too easy to change settings accidentally with your nose when shooting left-eyed (or maybe I just have a big nose!). I would have written that it's also a bit annoying that moving the switch doesn't change the focus point unless you activate the meter first, but when I actually Read TFM I found the custom fuction that changes this. Agree about the dedicated bracketing switch, too - I'd much rather have one of these than a button for 'Qual'. And I'd really rather not have to go into a menu to switch auto ISO on and off - it would be nice if (e.g.) holding the ISO button down for a few seconds (without rotating the command dial) engaged/disengaged the auto setting.
  59. Jonathan, thanks for the tips on the 1 second shutter delay. I'll do some tests to see if it's as sharp as w/ mirror up. :)
  60. Hmm?
    Almost nothing drives me nuts about this camera. There are of course little quirks that cause me to say “why didn’t Nikon do it this way?”
    I’ve heard some others complain that the D-300 is too heavy. What? No way; unless of course one is using a 600mm prime hand held. LOL
    I’ve shot all day with this camera and find it very comfortable with little if any hand fatigue. The ergonomics are terrific! Much better than my now dusty F5 HP.
    What irks me; is just when I think I have derived the best possible images from this camera only to find other ways to squeeze out more dynamic range.
    “Camera strap?” Who uses a camera strap? LOL Yep, I may be taking a risk, but seriously, I don’t use camera straps. I find they get in the way and scratch the camera body. I know; one day I will no doubt regret this decision not to use one.
  61. Kevin - RE: "Only thing I have had is the playback mode has inadvertinly turned off on me, and sometimes it does not play back when I hit the play button.. "
    This happens to me all the time and drives me nuts. Any idea what causes this? It seems to be mostly random, though occassionally it will happen in bursts. Am I bumping a button? Perhaps one of my playback settings is causing the problem. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
    Other than this small gripe, I love my D300. It has turned me from an amateur photographer to an enthusiastic hobbiest. And it makes me look like a better photographer than I am. It is flexible yet intuitive. I love the Qual/ISO/WB/S/CL/CH grouping on the top left of the body - easy access to commonly used functions. The large, bright display is incredible. Autofocus is fast, metering is accurate and with the updated firmware, the auto White Balance is superb. The High ISO performance is terrific, only bested by perhaps a handful of cameras - most of which are 60-200% more money. The D300 put a lot of great, older cameras permenantly out of business, inluding some very expensive and much bulkier Nikons. It handles like a gem and is solid as a rock. I have had 3 people already offer to buy it from me when I am ready to sell.
    While the secondary market for the D300 will continue to show declining values as newer/better models are rolled out, this camera performs well enough that it should retain significant used values for years to come, a reflection of the well balanced design of the camera.
  62. The price, so I bought a pair of discontinued D200s at a very good price and I'm very pleased!
  63. "
    "Again, if you hold the camera correctly, you should not have any finger near that S/C/M switch while you are holding the camera horizontally or vertically. Instead, the center of your left palm should be bracing the bottom of the camera, and I simply don't see how you palm can accidentally knock that switch out of position. Even though you try, it should be very difficult to move that switch with your palm, especially when there is a lens on the camera."
    Shun: Feedback suggests there are a lot of folks holding the camera wrong if that is the case. Also, I've never heard previously that I had to hold a camera a certain way.
    Since my Nikon F days my left hand has always supported the body and/or lens. My style didn't cause problems with any other Nikon including the F100 and the F4s or older Pentaxes or Olympuses or any other make of camera (the exception being the "Contax Grip" needed to operate that paricular RF, which I've never been comfortable with). That tells me the design of the DSLR switch has some issues--nothing I can't deal with but Come on! Claiming operator error on a camera that cost almost two grand just doesn't fly. If a modern camera in that class is designed so there is a problem if it is held a little differently that what is recommended, then that is a bad design. The location of the switch isn't the problem. It is the ease with which the selector can be changed that is the issue.
  64. Well said Wayne. Operating a camera like this should be a seamless experience without concern for switches getting inadvertently dislodged. Do you think Nikon reads this stuff?
  65. The 'multi selector' (rocker switch/Nintendo control), is pants, it's a bit of a lucky dip most of the time. Nintendo will se sueing you for that comment, lol, the button is from a market stall £1.99 snyde controler, a hunking great piece of wood, would be an improvement. The M/C/S button being where it is has made me hold my camera correctly (apparently) to stop me changing the settings, so, that is a good thing. Other than the multi selector, i think it's fantastic and way beyond my talent.
  66. In a photo mag several years ago, I read that wearing a camera's "iconic" camera strap (like one that says, "Nikon D300") was similar to wearing a huge sign saying, "Mug me: I'm giving this camera away." Since then I've used an after-market strap. I like the Op/Tech USA straps. They have a weight distribution system for a neck strap that at least gives the impression of lightening the load.
    Like others on this thread, I bought professional Kodak DSLR's until they abandoned that line of business. The last one cost $4999. I used it until a month ago when I bought the D300. It's amazing how much has changed, and it's equally amazing how well Nikon has integrated the changes into the D300. It's a great camera.
  67. You can always turn the strap over. I did, not so much for the logo but because that fake suede hurt my neck. I can remember when everyone complained because Nikon was the only camera company not to supply a free strap.
  68. I gotta gripe about the D300's handle --it feels like there isn't enough room for your fingers. The vertical grip, on the other hand, has a lot more room and feels better.
    And I gotta complain about auto-white balance. I don't use the auto-white balance, but I probably would use it if it were better.
    Also, I don't want to sound like a basher, but it's a drag scrolling through so many focus-points? I appreciate that there are that many, but I wish moving the fp around were a little faster or easier somehow --was playing around with my friend's 5D mk I. It's an animal... old, by today's standards, but I liked the simplicity of the AF points.
    I also wish the useless DOF preview button were programmable to do something else? And I wish you could add "format cf card" to your custom menu.
    But those are my only gripes --the camera is excellent; I love it.
  69. Joshua - you can assign the DOF button to do other stuff. Look under F4 and F5 in that nightmare of a menu system.
  70. Would be nice to store 5 or 10 image comments that you could preload and use in the field. The input is too slow in the field.
  71. The D300 is a bit on the heavy side to me, say three or four ounces.
    Owners of D700's kick sand in my face (just kidding)
    The usual Nikon owner complaint that Canon has a more extensive selection of lenses.
    In reality, the D300 is the best crop format DSLR body on the planet today over a year after its release.
  72. "What drives you nuts about the D300?"
    The two zeros after the 3. :)
  73. lol Lou.
    I love my d300, I do hate the af switch and do bump sometimes. Sometimes it bothers me how, the d300 HAS to be focused on something before it takes the pic. I guess it is a good thing, but it annoys me sometimes.
  74. I wish the D300 had the option of the infrared remote like the D40. I have both cameras and I wish the D300 had the capability. Those remotes can be had on ebay for $20 bucks-ish. That would be sweet to use with the D300.
    I also agree with the complaint regarding the position of the focus area selection switch.
  75. It would be interesting to ask this question over on the Canon forum about the 50D.
  76. The only thing that makes me crazy on the D300 is that you can't change the focus point without depressing the shutter release halfway in. Maybe there's a way to change that in a setting somewhere, but I haven't found it yet. This is kind of minor complaint, but it can be a pain when you're photographing fast moving action. Aside from that, it's a great camera.
  77. ShunCheung

    ShunCheung Administrator

    "The only thing that makes me crazy on the D300 is that you can't change the focus point without depressing the shutter release halfway in. Maybe there's a way to change that in a setting somewhere, but I haven't found it yet."​
    While I wouldn't necessarily say that this feature "drives me nuts" or "makes me crazy," I too find it annoying. And I don't believe that any one of the timer options in Custom Settings group C can leangthen this timeout. I simply get into the habit to lightly tap the shutter release button before I change my AF point selection from the multi-select pad.
  78. ShunCheung

    ShunCheung Administrator

    Tony, I checked with Thom Hogan on this issue. Essentially you have to lightly tap the shutter release button or some other button to "wake up" the camera again so that you can change the AF point selection. That timeout is not user changable.
  79. ShunCheung

    ShunCheung Administrator

    Sorry, I missed Wayne's comment earlier.
    When I was a teenager, I learned that the proper way to hand hold a 35mm SLR camera is to suppot the bottom of camera body and lens with the left hand, with the palm facing up. If you hold the left side of the camera with your left hand similar to holding the right side with your right, you are leaving a relatively heavy lens sticking out front and that is not as stable, especially if you have a longer telephoto lens out front.
    Nobody says you have to hold a camera that way, but regardless of how expensive a tool may be, if you use it improperly, you will have problems. Why would anybody be surprised by that?
  80. For Joshua who complained about too slow scrolling because there were so many focus points.
    The answer I found is only to use 11 focus points, but to use the camera in a tracking mode so that the other focus points are active if the subject (focused on one of the focus points) moves off the focus point you have used.
    To use the camera this way, you quickly use the multi-selector to move the focus point across the screen (way faster because there are only a maximum of five horizontal points to cross in the center, one less at top and bottom) and center the focus point on your desired object, such as an eye. Then slightly depress the shutter release to lock the focus point, slightly reframe 'to taste' and then release. If the subject moves, or if you're shooting a moving object such as a bird, the 53 or so focus points are 'active' and will follow the subject if you set the focus point selection switch to the second center, position (just below the 'closest subject' position).
    Yes, if you set all the focus points to being 'active' it can take forever to scroll across the screen, so use my method and it'll take only a thrice.
    I'm primarily a 'street' photographer, and this method works wonderfully for me, even when I choose 'C' shooting. Everything is almost always in focus. I understand this camera also has 'face recognition' and somehow (I don't know how) that seems to help with the focusing if all the focus points are enabled, but only the 11 are active - somebody tell me if I'm blowing smoke, but back it up with some facts, please. The camera seems to do very well in 'closest subject' also possibly because of 'face recognition' but I am unschooled in how that might work, but I now often use 'closest subject' when I don't have time to choose a focus point.
    Also, I was bothered by the focus point bouncing around, but found that one simple change in the menu could stop that forever.
    Now I have no problem with a bouncing focus point. I suppose that applies to all modern Nikon cameras which have the same menu or a derivative one.
    That being said, my only 'issue' is the aperture mode selection button which can get knocked out of place accidentally - from 'matrix' to 'spot' to 'center-weighted' - by another, companion camera/lens combination hitting it, and thus throw all sorts of havoc into captures until discovered.
    It happened with the D200 a lot, and should have been engineered out, rather simply by making switch rotation change more positive or by locking the switch by requiring two movements or a switch turn lock. It's ruined a few world class shots for me, or rendered them barely salvageable.
    Other than that, great camera.
    As I said before, if this were the last camera I ever had, it'd be OK, though I would will opt for greater ISO capability and the D700 and D3 are on my pauper's list, so long as I am not considering the 'crop factor' for nature shooting, sports shooting, and certain types of landscape shooting, etc., where a D300 has its proper place behind a long telephoto lens.
    John (Crosley)
  81. ShunCheung

    ShunCheung Administrator

    Concerning the issue about taking too long to scroll through the 51 AF points, keep in mind that you can select AF point wrap around so that you can move from the extrem right to the extreme left (or top to bottom, etc.) with just one press of the button.
    Additionally, pressing on the center of the multi-select pad will set you to the center AF point, and you can move from there.
    At least once I get used to those functions, I can move around the AF points quite quickly.

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