What do they do with their thousands of images?!!

Discussion in 'Philosophy' started by pjdilip, Feb 20, 2021.

  1. not exactly, it means 'never ending' JD

    Literally, yes. Just about (if we want to split hairs) QG

    All well and good: but, is not the beauty of understanding thoughts; the correct interpretation of them?
  2. "Give a photographer a digital camera, and a big SD card, and a real work of art will be produced"...I think your evaluation is small minded. Who among us have ever tried to evaluate the split second we trip that shutter? I've been doing this for 50 years now, and I have no idea why I trip that shutter now, versus a millisecond later/sooner. I've also seen enough shrinks to know I will never know. The "NOW" moment is unknown, involuntary, and MAGIC! Do you think Ansel Adams knew why he tripped the shutter at 2:17 pm instead of 2:16 pm? Maybe he took both, but only one said "YES" to him in the dark room. I don't think you mean to be as casual in your statement...I hope. Like I said, I have been doing this for 50 years...mostly in what I consider the most competitive genre, advertising/fashion. I did well...not because I have any special talent, but because I worked my ass off, and was lucky. Never underestimate luck...being in the right place at the right time is 90% of great photography!
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  3. I do. I mean, isn't it obvious that if he had tripped the shutter at 2:16, the guy wouldn't have started his jump over the puddle yet? :)
    I'd say the "NOW" moment is partially unknown, partially involuntary, and MAGIC, often combined with what's known, what's voluntary, and what's thought about.
  4. That's Cartier Bresson.
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  5. Jeez, what nonsenses. It was setup, how simple is that to understand..

    Phylo/ Phil, or Qg something, worked it out all on his own.

    A hope, of understanding , for us all.
  6. Doug, sorry for the senior moment on AA and HCB, lol. In any case, HCB might have been a photographer who knew why he tripped the shutter at one moment instead of the next. I imagine AA did as well, especially if he was waiting for a particular cloud formation to catch the light he wanted or the sun to fall on the water the way he visualized it. Who knows, maybe at some point, he photographed a guy jumping over a puddle in Yosemite! That photo, if it exists, he would have decided to keep to himself.
  7. Sam, I guess I was going a little deeper than lining up clouds and sun. A lifetime of experience comes into play when a photographer trips that shutter. There is no way of knowing why that particular formation of visual elements resonates with any one particular photographer! I've always found that when I get in the "zone", the less I'm thinking, the more I'm purely reacting, the better my photos. The "zone" is not a conscious place.
  8. The zone is often a gut-level place for me, though I suspect I'm still conscious when in the zone.

    In any case, thoughts about the why of the moment, for me, may come in the moment, may come either before I go out or when I'm reviewing my shots after I've taken them. While being in the zone can be a key, thinking about what I've done or will do at other times, when I'm not necessarily holding a camera, noticing when and why I clicked the shutter at particular times over the years has helped me develop a vision with intention. For me, working with thoughts and instincts, intention and spontaneity, serendipity, luck, and some very conscious effort has led to combinations that work for me and play off each other. I do a fair amount of series and projects, which may lead to more thinking in order for them to be coherent.

    We all work differently and that's why there are diverse visions, diverse photographs, and diverse bodies of work.
  9. "Do you think Ansel Adams knew why he tripped the shutter at 2:17 pm instead of 2:16 pm?"

    Actually, maybe not exact time, but I believe Adams was quite deliberate. He knew he wanted to shoot a certain scene at a certain time of day. He had get himself to the right spot, which is no small feat in the wilderness, and he knew where he wanted the light to be when he shot. A minute either way? Who knows, but he knew about when the light was what he wanted and planned for it. There was no way to "spray and pray" with a large format view camera.
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  10. "but I believe Adams was quite deliberate. He knew he wanted" Barry

    Indeed, the stage was set, and the drum roll...

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  11. I'm somewhere in-between.
  12. I sit here and ponder the original question. One thing that always comes to mind is something someone once said. Who will look at all the images I've taken once I'm gone? Over the years I've accumulated several 100k images, of which less than 100 are of any special meaning to me. To someone else, they are meaningless. Events in my life provide a very personal meaning when they've been recorded. Although I would give up all images to get our late son back.
  13. I have a box of negatives from my grandfather. Some have pictures of family events, though most don't.
    They didn't live so close, so not as many as might have been.
    I have some slides from him, though I don't think so many .

    More recently, I have some slides from my father, mostly of family.
    There are many scenic views from vacations, some from trips I was on, but I don't
    have so many of those. Many he has scanned, but not all at high resolution.

    As for my own, I have negatives from 7th and 8th grade yearbook photography, and many
    slides and negatives from my college dorm years. Some are now on Facebook.

    I also have some slides from my last days in high school (40 years ago). These I
    recently posted to the Facebook page for my school, where some people recognized
    themself or others they knew.

    So it is likely that there are some people who would find meaning in you pictures.
    How likely they are to see them is a different question. (Maybe you only take scenery,
    careful to keep anyone you know out of the picture.) But even then, some might find
    pictures of some national parks, or other scenic places, interesting to compare changes
    over time.

    There is a page in our Sunday newspaper where they post some picture, usually of a
    downtown building, now and many years ago. Someone took the picture without any
    thought that someone 80 years later might find it interesting.


    Here is a picture of my high school, a few days after graduation. Many thousands have graduated from it over the years,
    and might find it interesting. I had a roll of Anscochrome 200 that I bought half price recently expired.
    (Processing included in the price.) Maybe someone here will recognize it.
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  14. You keep them.

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  15. I toss photos that are just total misses. But I keep a lot of photos that don't strike me as good at first. But I've found a lot of photos that I didn't first consider, on later consideration, often a year or more, they speak to me and I see things I didn't see before. Without getting into a debate on the nature of potential, I've found it useful to keep some of those photos.
  16. A good habit is to archive the camera cards contents on a BD-R. Then you have a pretty archival source to go back to if you ever need to access it all. Cards can hold data for a while, but they must be plugged in periodically to keep a charge. I've tested for 5 years and OK, but that is all I know for their longevity if not plugged in. If you wnat things more archive use BD-R M-Disc.
  17. As well as I know, the charge for memory cells is not refreshed unless the data is rewritten.
    You could copy the files off, and then back again, in various ways.

    I am not so sure about the longevity of the various writable optical disks.
    Kept in the dark, they should be better than in the light.
    RW forms are less stable than R forms.
    I don't know about CD-R, DVD-R, DVD+R, vs. BD-R, though.
  18. Your talking about Blue Ray? I don't use that, but I have about 3 backups on various
    external drives.
  19. It's been a while since I've considered some type of disk, but last time was several years ago before external drives became much more affordable. One problem with them was you had to buy expensive disks that used gold or platinum interior layers as the normal paper deteriorated fairly fast making them not that archival. But I haven't looked at that for a long time. The writing to and retrieving from a fast drive, especially SSDs still seem much faster then reading off some kind of Rom Disk.
  20. Do note that memory cards like SD and drives like SSD use the same technology inside.

    If you want different technology, copying to SSD doesn't help.

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