carbon_dragon Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 What black and white film would you like to see revived and sold again? Extra credit if you can make an argument that the revived film would actually be profitable! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben_hutcherson Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 No question for me-Plus-X! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDMvW Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 Although I shot a lot more Tri-X and Plus-X back when Panatomic X was still available, I wish Panatomic X were still available in 35mm casettes. I can't imagine any circumstances under which it would still be commercially viable, unless made by the "actually existing" factories of the former Warsaw Pact. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Helmke Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 Panatomic X and Plus X, definitely. Rick H. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott_eaton5 Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 Panatomic was a super fun film to shoot with. Drastically less finicky on processing than techpan although a pre-soak was mandatory given it's short development time. I always preferred Panatomic over Pan-F. Verichrome Pan is another classic that's sorely missed. Incredible highlight structure that rides between chromogenics and classic B&W films while retaining the density range of the later. Plus-X never amazed me preferring FP4 instead. Later gens of Plus-X pro were just diet Tmax 100, so be careful what you wish for. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgelfand Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 Agfa APX 100. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ed_farmer Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 I'll vote for Pan-X but my expectation is that there are current films that will produce images every bit as good . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glen_h Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 When I was younger, I would buy 100 foot rolls of ASA 40 Panatomic-X from Freestyle. It was somehow different from regular FX, much more translucent. I would develop it in Diafine at EI 160 or 250. (Depends on the box.) No idea on the profitability of any film. -- glen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuck909 Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 I don't want tp see a revival, but I would love to see Kodak make a newly formulated super fine grain s l o w speed film. TMax 25? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carbon_dragon Posted October 10, 2018 Author Share Posted October 10, 2018 Why don't you like Tech Pan. Aside from the slow speed I really like its look. I even bought a bunch of it just after they discontinued. Wouldn't you rather super fine grain in the regular TMAX speeds? Or are you looking for slow speed for some other reason? What was Panatomic like? I never used it in my youth! In the 70s and 80s it was mostly Tri-X for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJG Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 +1 for Panatomic X--I have never liked the T Max film look for some reason, and developing seemed more finicky to me than other films. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuck909 Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 (edited) Why don't you like Tech Pan. Aside from the slow speed I really like its look. I even bought a bunch of it just after they discontinued. Wouldn't you rather super fine grain in the regular TMAX speeds? Or are you looking for slow speed for some other reason? What was Panatomic like? I never used it in my youth! In the 70s and 80s it was mostly Tri-X for me. I liked Tech Pan just fine, but as far as Kodak ever bringing it back, fat chance. Yes, I would be fine with Pan X. I like slower speeds for more open apertures without digging into my bag for ND filters. Better for fill flash, too Edited October 10, 2018 by chuck909 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandy Vongries Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 Check out the new Adox HR 50 - sounds familiar! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carbon_dragon Posted October 10, 2018 Author Share Posted October 10, 2018 Well they say it’s very fine grained and it’s almost as slow as Tech Pan with a recommended proprietary developer but useable with other developers and with a tiny amount of IR sensitivity (sounds similar to SFX). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuck909 Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 Dang - I've never given Adox a try. Guess I'll have to now, but too bad I just ordered my fall supply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carbon_dragon Posted October 10, 2018 Author Share Posted October 10, 2018 I have so much film in the fridge, I feel like I need to shoot that up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danac Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 Another vote for Plus-X 1 A book's a great place to hide out in - Trevanian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ-Suzanne Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 Neopan 400 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glen_h Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 As above, when I was young I liked Panatomic-X in Diafine. At that time, I didn't understand the limitations of pushing, and the data sheets that I had didn't give push times like they do now. Also, I didn't understand exposure latitude all that well. But I did believe the Diafine explanation that it got extra speed from film. So, I was happy with my Panatomic-X at EI 160 or 250, and also Tri-X at 1200 or 1600. I did a lot of 7th and 8th grade yearbook photography with those films and EI values, available light in well-lit school classrooms. (One wall of windows, and a lot of fluorescent lamps.) 5 -- glen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carbon_dragon Posted October 20, 2018 Author Share Posted October 20, 2018 A couple of years ago I would have thought it was impossible for any film to be revived, but I guess we've learned that isn't true. I'd sure like to see Kodak HIE revived personally, or at least a real deep infrared film. Trouble is digital infrared is a bit too good with converted sensors. Here's a Tech Pan shot. I'm shooting up some of the stuff I have left in the fridge. It's a pain to shoot a ISO 25 film, but it sure looks nice. This was taken with a Contax Aria SLR. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DB_Gallery Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 I suppose APX25, it just sings like no other in Rodinal 1+50. I have a couple hundred rolls of it in 120 just like I do Tecdhpan so I am set really. What I would *really* like to see come back is a 400 speed black and white film in 220 for my aerial fine art work. Delta 400 or Tmax 400 would really be sweet to have in 220. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ-Suzanne Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 A couple of years ago I would have thought it was impossible for any film to be revived, but I guess we've learned that isn't true. I'd sure like to see Kodak HIE revived personally, or at least a real deep infrared film. Trouble is digital infrared is a bit too good with converted sensors. Here's a Tech Pan shot. I'm shooting up some of the stuff I have left in the fridge. It's a pain to shoot a ISO 25 film, but it sure looks nice. This was taken with a Contax Aria SLR. [ATTACH=full]1267766[/ATTACH] The attached snaps were shot on Kodak HIE Infrared film. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuart_pratt Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 Another vote for HIE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul ron Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 im very happy with t grain films. dont miss any of the old emulsions. The more you say, the less people listen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carbon_dragon Posted October 22, 2018 Author Share Posted October 22, 2018 Ok, let’s turn this on its head. What one film would you like to guarantee never gets discontinued? For me, thats easy, it’s Tri-X. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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